George Monbiot @georgemonbiot.bsky.social · 20/08/2026On BBC Radio 4's Moral Maze tonight: “Slavery - Right or Wrong?” Some people say it’s morally wrong. On the other hand, it makes a tonne of money. On the panel: Edward Colston, King Leopold II, Tommy Robinson and Matt Goodwin. Join us as we discuss one of the great moral dilemmas of the day. 1182256356 0
Jeff @thirdwhaletrip.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Platforming empire not really my thing George. I'll give that a miss. 000 0
David Jobbins @davidj2024.bsky.social · 21/08/2026Michael Buerke and the BBC never yield - I took a complaint through two stages when Buerke trailed a debate on Labour's plan to concrete over the green belt - origin of the quote was an unsupported intro to a BBC story. Someone was going to have a word with Buerke - obviously not enough. 000 0
Paul @birminghamkav.bsky.social · 20/08/2026I'd really like to listen to this. To put the facts of slavery to Colston and Leopold in a modern setting would be fascinating. Maybe chuck in the late C19 Cadburys too. 010 0
leemurg.bsky.social @leemurg.bsky.social · 20/08/2026The "Let's have a heated debate" approach to policy & social issues - see Jeremy Vine show & GMB to name a couple - is one of the dimmest & most damaging forms of political debate. It's just a race to the bottom. 001 0
Daniel @c-rex1.bsky.social · 20/08/2026I thought Edward Colston was having swimming lessons down at Liverpool docks? 121 0
Andrew James @a-bluejay.bsky.social · 20/08/2026This would be light entertainment rather than serious satire if it wasn't so true about the BBC & if their friends at Cambridge Uni didn't pay 'race scientists' and 'professors of the Philosophy of Religion' supporting Palantir billionaire Thiel's "Dark Enlightenment" bylinetimes.com/2026/08/18/t...bylinetimes.comThe Peter Thiel-Linked Race Science Network that Penetrated Cambridge University and Targeted Jason ArdayThe media's coverage of the academic's life was fuelled by the campaign of an established far-right network 022 0
Richard Chin @richardchin.bsky.social · 20/08/2026To be fair, it's only the difficulty of booking the first two guests that prevents the Moral Maze doing this 130 0
pondlife @pondlife.bsky.social · 20/08/2026You can rely on The Immoral Maze to promote the "ideas" of nutters and Refukkkers. Buerk seems to rather enjoy pretending to be serious while donning his Katie Hopkins garb. 020 0
Livsbian 🌈 @livvytrouble.bsky.social · 20/08/2026“Are brown people fully human?”… *in all seriousness, turning everything into a “debate” is what’s destroying society 51694 0
fionn114.bsky.social @fionn114.bsky.social · 20/08/2026„There are good and bad people on both sides“…..oh wait… 020 0
Keith Campbell Tupman @alex-harvey-1960.bsky.social · 20/08/2026I was rather hoping that julia hartley brewer might have been co-opted - for balance… 040 0
siligrl1968.bsky.social @siligrl1968.bsky.social · 20/08/2026How the F@#k is this even a debate topic? There is only one correct side to this question. SLAVERY IS MORALLY WRONG. Period. Stop. Don't open your mouth and say anything else. Any attempt at justification makes you an evil monster. And there are no shades of gray in this matter. 000 0
Alan Rodgers @bi99le5.bsky.social · 20/08/2026And Channel 4 will have a follow up show next week "The Great Slavery Myth - is freedom overrated?" 21054 0
Pat Blair @patblair.bsky.social · 21/08/2026If the "Tommy Robinson" is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is BBC licence-payers' money being used to pay him? If so, how much? What on earth is the BB up to? 000 0
Mrs. G @janbellina.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Then there is de facto slavery where instead of being owned, fed, clothed and housed and given enough rest to carry on, the worker has freedom; a wage in exchange for work, to provide for themselves. But it isn't enough, so they work longer hours and take no breaks, no holidays, and are exhausted. 010 0
lizliep.bsky.social @lizliep.bsky.social · 20/08/2026I thought we'd solved that 'debate' a while ago. The consensus seemed to be that slavery was pretty wrong and that maybe we should learn lessons from it. 000 0
neallyon.bsky.social @neallyon.bsky.social · 20/08/2026The Moral-Extremely-Straight-Single-Row-of-Hedge. 000 0
LeftPlague @theleftplague.bsky.social · 20/08/2026If King Leopold II were around now, the BBC would 100% platform him and give him free rein to justify forced labour and murder 040 0
jmmills.bsky.social @jmmills.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Stopped listening years ago - there’s only so much Claire Fox, David Starkey and Melanie Phillips et al a person can take. Not to mention Michael Buerk .. 080 0
Dr Negrin's Victory Pills @dr-negrin.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Meanwhile, GB News will have already hired lots of slaves. . . 050 0
Stephen Elliott~Buckley @maxfieldripken.mastodon.social.ap.brid.gy · 20/08/2026@georgemonbiot.bsky.social Cheque please, I'll be leaving this planet now Funny how people still loathe the vile English, to this day A recent reminder: #rrr And lots of people have forgotten about, say, Belgium, or were propagandized into ignorance #cdnpoli #canada #fascism #antifa […]mastodon.socialOriginal post on mastodon.social 010 0
Ally The Ever Hopefull 🏴 🇮🇪 🇪🇺 @agulland.bsky.social · 20/08/2026If it wasn't for "king leopold" I'd have thought this was legit 010 0
allysmith.bsky.social @allysmith.bsky.social · 20/08/2026😂 I stopped funding the BBC around 2010, when they became a mouthpiece for Tory ‘austerity’ policies. It has always been blatant state propaganda from its founding. 0150 0
Raphaël Chaleil @blastwizard.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Contemplating just for one second the idea that slavery could be right, is just outrageous. Whoever came with that monstrosity of a program need their head checked urgently. 000 0
peter1867.bsky.social @peter1867.bsky.social · 20/08/2026This is so depressing as it is so possible! There are plenty of people around who would support enslaving people, Black people of course! 000 0
Graham Davis @agendaforreform.bsky.social · 20/08/2026BBC alway want’s to remain impartial, Hitler right or wrong? Climate change a matter of opinion? Wife beating, let’s look at the reasons behind it? Book Nigel Farage again for Question Time, why wasn’t he on last week? 0274 0
Paula @speccypaula.bsky.social · 20/08/2026I assumed this must be a sardonic joke but i still had to look it up cos that's where we're at. 050 0
Dr Autumn Roesch-Marsh 🚲 🌳🗻🎨✍️ @aroeschmarsh.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Point well made George. How do we progress morally if we cannot at least agree some things are no longer up for debate - THEY ARE WRONG - holy f£&@ no wonder our evolution as a species is so stunted 020 0
“Rebellious Scots” 😎🏴🇪🇺 @markrich68.bsky.social · 20/08/2026It’s not far off it 🏴🇪🇺😎 000 0
Climate John @johnclimate.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Gibbification of the BBC is almost complete... 011 0
gpthakkar.bsky.social @gpthakkar.bsky.social · 20/08/2026This isn’t what boffins mean when they say “question everything” Not everything is up for debate. There are a few well-established rights and wrongs as well as blatantly obvious rights and wrongs. The golden rule: put yourself in the other person’s shoes, and behave accordingly. 3422 0
Blackstar☆ @blackstar1976.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Sadly these days it would be more like: why are the intolerant left harassing slave owning entrepreneurs and what is the government going to do to stop this outrage? 051 0
Gerri @gerbelean.bsky.social · 20/08/2026It used to be quite interesting right up until he went into the jungle for shed loads of cash. 030 0
mactakeshi.bsky.social @mactakeshi.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Next week, how many more tasks can we give to BlackCore before it becomes obvious. 000 0
Katrina Katrinka :donor: @katrinakatrinka.infosec.exchange.ap.brid.gy · 21/08/2026@georgemonbiot.bsky.social "King Leopold II" I know that name. Not in a modern context, though. Whoever fell for this need to learn their history. 010 0
Cookingonusb @cookingonusb.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Tommy Robinson? The fascist? Why is BBC giving exposure to fascists? 000 0
johnw60.bsky.social @johnw60.bsky.social · 20/08/2026bsky.app/profile/alic...Alice Bennett@aliceponderland.bsky.socialNobody in The Moral Maze gets eaten by the Moral Minotaur, which is a fundamental flaw in the programme. 020 0
George Hotchkiss @hotchkiss13.bsky.social · 20/08/2026The both sides construct where fascism thrives dressed as intellectualism. 1190 0
Shoveller @shoveller.bsky.social · 20/08/2026They just swapped the chains for shiny things and debt. The slavery didn't go away it just changed its tune. 051 0
Shouting in my echo chamber @catowasright.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Stopped listening ages ago when every week they platformed Claire Fox just another rage bait program 000 0
Janet @janetsouthcoast.bsky.social · 20/08/2026It’s a really warped view of impartiality. That is why Frage and co ballooned as given a platform every time, even when very low polling so their side was put.The Overton window has moved next door. I feel there is an opportunity now to drag it back if Burnham has more courage than Starmer. 010 0
paulusthewoodgnome @paulusthewoodgnome.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Same... bsky.app/profile/paul...paulusthewoodgnome@paulusthewoodgnome.bsky.social#PoliticsLive in 1930s Germany, in the aftermath of Kristallnacht. They invite on a Nazi and a Jew. Presenter to Nazi: "How do you explain this awful attack on the Jewish community? Nazi: "Sadly, the Jews have brought it upon themselves." Presenter turns to the Jew: "He has a point, doesn't he?" 0858 0
Charley Norbury 🇪🇺🇬🇧🇪🇺 @charleycharles.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Oh my word, I wasn't even slightly suspicious this was a joke until king Leopold. Wow. The BBC has fallen such a long way, it makes me sad. I've always been a staunch supporter but now I begrudge paying my licence fee. 270 0
Jamie Crawford @jamiecrawford68.bsky.social · 20/08/2026The way finances are heading, i wouldn’t be surprised if we see indentured slavery in a western world nation within a decade two. Dressed up in (very low paid) job security. 120 0
St Mark-le-bone @marklebone.bsky.social · 20/08/2026BBC reports on a Reform announcement of "Free personal house and home care for all citizens", only clarifying after four headline changes that it's to be provided by unwaged former-citizens. 030 0
Dr Caz 🌳🇪🇺 🇺🇦🔸 @drcj.bsky.social · 20/08/2026It really shouldn’t be this hard to tell if you’re joking But, the current BBC… 3390 0
Captain Easychord @suddenstars.bsky.social · 20/08/2026It could, and should be a really good programme. But there was absolutely no way I was listening to that last night.Captain Easychord@suddenstars.bsky.socialSo, Michael Burke just trailed tonight's Moral Maze on BBC R4. He started out quoting Robert Jenrick, then quoted Elon Musk and the debate is going to be about whether empathy is a good thing. Worst. Episode. Ever. (and it's a low bar). 1154 0
lunalass.bsky.social @lunalass.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Is it being floated as an idea for increasing GDP? The end justifying the means and all that...? I have to say, I see it more as a greased- up flume to the deepest layer of Hell rather than any kind of maze. 000 0
lanare 🦋🏴🇪🇺🏁🇺🇦 @podgyfingers.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Is this a joke??? How can it even be considered “right”. Morals have nothing to do with it! 000 0
Magdalena @csibike1.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Selling and buying humans like cattle? Because of profit? I would love to see Tommy, Nigel and Matt in chains….in prison 000 0
Ulli Stahlmann @ullistahlmann.bsky.social · 20/08/2026I'm not sure if I understand this correctly: will this be a play of 19th century America? Satire? What is there to discuss? 000 0
snave64.bsky.social @snave64.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Oh dear. So many people taking this literally, I’m beginning to wonder if empathy is over rated? (Lets ask the panel). 0110 0
Louis Redux @louisredux.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Worryingly people exist who do not realise this is parody. And I don't just mean people who don't understand comic hyperbole and thus didn't get the joke. I also mean people who think slavery is a "pretty good idea actually". 041 0
David Flood @maoltuile.bsky.social · 20/08/2026‘Also Sensible Centrist Edmund Burke for balance’ 010 0
cobrunstrom.bsky.social @cobrunstrom.bsky.social · 20/08/2026On the panel we have Death Itself, Kevin Normal - who doesn't want to kill anyone - and Thanos - who only wants to destroy half the universe. Join us as we endorse the sensible centrist position of Thanos. 130 0
Pablobrooker @paulobro.bsky.social · 20/08/2026With an in-depth look at whether slaves really had it that bad, with the chairman of british American tobacco. 040 0
Humphrey Pring @humphreypring.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Almost fell for this! Nice one! And some great comments. It does feel very plausible in this current situation. 071 0
Chris Forwood @chrisforwoodbskys.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Moral Maze is, without any doubt, the worst programme on UK media. 030 0
EllieD @ellie04.bsky.social · 20/08/2026I haven’t listened to the MM, even by accident, for a long time. Painful wincing has been greatly reduced hereby… 000 0
Mike Royden @mikeroyden.bsky.social · 20/08/2026And this will be followed at 9pm by ‘World Forum’… And the first question is for you, Karl Marx; The Hammers…The Hammers is the nickname of what English football team? No? Well bad luck there, Karl. So onto Che Guevara - Che, Coventry City last won the FA Cup in what year? 110 0
Dougie Taylor @dubhglas4.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Is it wrong to fund the BBC through paying for a TV licence? I and many others decided the answer to that one a few years ago. 062 0
SpacemanSpiff @veganspacemanspiff.bsky.social · 20/08/2026And that sounds like it was written by ChatGPT or Gemini. Dangerous confabulatory both sidesism nonsense. 000 0
Mrs B 🐧🇪🇺 @mathsgeeky.bsky.social · 20/08/2026George, the trouble is I cannot tell if you are joking. 180 0
Murmuration @murmeration.bsky.social · 20/08/2026The BBC are “only asking the right questions”…. they clearly don’t think that setting the agenda in this way makes people think there is actually still a moral dilemma 070 0
Tree Bird @oakwoods.bsky.social · 20/08/2026I nearly believed this, which says... everything. I even checked schedules and crikey, the reality isn't too far off is it? I heard Musk twatting on about 'suicidal empathy' >1 yr ago and thought, OK this is some fascist bollocks on steroids...now brought to you, for your consideration, by the Beeb 030 0
billbicker.bsky.social @billbicker.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Do Slaves pay taxes or do they just get free housing? Also, when they were ripped from their families and homes, and shipped thousands of miles away why didn’t they just stop in the first country that had slaves? 010 0
Suz @lily2748.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Slavery is not a moral or economic dilemma. There is no choice. It is the most severe human atrocity. It strips human beings of freedom and bodily autonomy and reduces people to property. Modern ethical frameworks and global consensus all reject slavery as an unmitigated violation of human rights. 010 0
Noel Darlow @noeldarlow.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Next week: is it wrong to use nuclear weapons on protestors and benefits claimants? 030 0
Little Richardjohn @littlerichardjohn.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Morality, morality morality. All a "a superstructure built over existing property relations" ".contained in the saying: ‘Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.’ It was Christ.. who uttered the text, but it was Marx who brought it to life " www.telelib.com/authors/O/Or...telelib.com25 February 1944 - As I Please - George Orwell, Book, etext 000 0
baz @bazoid.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Host: Can you define slavery for us Matt? Matt Goodwin: One sec, I'll ask ChatGTP 0700 0
Steve H. @chazzstock.bsky.social · 20/08/2026It seems @georgemonbiot.bsky.social is a bit of a wind-up merchant. 😀 Although... who knows any more, when it comes to the BBC! 050 0
Ludlow Mortimer @ludlowmortimer.bsky.social · 20/08/2026On one hand, a perfectly balanced panel as two of them are actually alive. However it's unclear how Leopold and Colston will be able to give voice to their cause. Perhaps the BBC has a studio on the other side. Hmm. 😂 020 0
Adam CA @adamarket.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Living in America as I do, I barely recognized this as parody. 040 0
John ‘the importance of ideas & information’ 🦋 @wjpme.bsky.social · 20/08/2026It’s the worst apparently ‘intellectual’ programme on R4. So, so inferior to Thinking Allowed, In Our Time, Take Four Books, Bookclub & Start the Week. I try to reassure myself that my licence fee money goes towards those! 1163 0
The Failed Anarchist Revival @failedanarchist.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Claire Fox will see this and write a pro-slavery polemic on that horrible website 0160 0
Dawn Robertson 🇪🇺🏴🇫🇷 @hayloftbooks.bsky.social · 20/08/2026IMHO it has and always will be worst possible cruelty. It’s not a dilemma, it’s unethical & against all supposedly christian beliefs of the perpetrators. 050 0
Philip Machanick 🇿🇦 @philip-mach.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Bothsidesism is so obviously wrong but nice parody. 010 0
shreddedcactus.bsky.social @shreddedcactus.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Very accurate. Appalling pile of shite that programme. 010 0
Old Hobbit🐸 @oldhobbit.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Listeners' comments: Won't someone think of the merchants and shipping agents in Liverpool whose jobs are at risk? Other people did it, so why are we bad? Why not let the market decide? It is too big to do anything about even if we wanted to. 0100 0
David Amerland @davidamerland.com · 20/08/2026To be fair I think Tommy Robinson and Matt Goodwin are such efficiency-minded fellows that they'd even be pro-incest on account of the ROI involved. 010 0
sky2b.bsky.social @sky2b.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Ah the BBC don't you love it. The home of false equivalence. Remember Nigel Lawson and climate change denial.... 2313 0
Suz Brinkman-Wordle @firmlyaground.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Say what you like. Slavery got the cane harvest in on time. 040 0
Rob Stewart @robstewartwriterq.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Maitliss derided this. Unfortunately it was after she left. 000 0
AGSmusings @agsmusings.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Really? We are becoming a nation of moral degenerates if we think this is a subject of debate! To suggest enslaving a fellow human can be justified by the money we make from it is morally repugnant! 010 0
Andrene@phytobelief @phytobelief.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Well, last night it was debating 'suicidal empathy'...........the latest punchy idea. 030 0
daviesgavin.bsky.social @daviesgavin.bsky.social · 20/08/2026How an earth did Tommy Robinson get an invite? A far right thug with a history of violence 111 0
Ed Gibney @edgibney.bsky.social · 20/08/2026It’s such a maze! (For the adamantly relativist. Or the “just asking” secretly immoral.) 000 0
Lil' Mands @lilmands.bsky.social · 20/08/2026Non story - it's illegal full stop. Why do people keep coming up with farcical discussions. Like the BBC following idiotic stories about benefit slashes from Reform. Not a story. And if Lennon-Yaxley is on it, no way I'd listen. He should be in prison. 010 0