Senator Dr. John Brown stan account, Esq., PhD, MD, JD, LCSW @johnbrownstan.bsky.social · 29/03/2025I think one compelling takeaway of *gestures broadly* is that terrorism works. 9/11 genuinely did destroy this country. 791536183 0
dlavin.bsky.social @dlavin.bsky.social · 29/03/2025I've thought this for years. Once we were engaged in forever wars in afghanistan...they really were effective. In a similar way as Russian social media propaganda- using our own national inclinations against us. 020 0
Brandon Bird @brandonbird.bsky.social · 29/03/2025It was the specific combo of neocons + 9/11. Bush always intended to go into Iraq, and the media spent the '90s manufacturing consent to "go back and finish the job." If Gore had been in office, we'd be living in an alternate universe. 9/11 might not have even *happened.* 2120 0
Johnny @vorpalsw0rd.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Agree. That’s when we became a “homeland” like the nazi fatherland or Soviet motherland. If only they’d done the recount in Fla properly… 000 0
Josh Wenderoff @jwenderoff.bsky.social · 29/03/2025If you look behind the towers you can see third way democrats tacking right on trade and crime, selling out the working class for moderate voters and cheap goods. 010 0
collsmike.bsky.social @collsmike.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Was it 9/11, or was it the Republican Party? The Republican Party decided that they weren’t willing to share democracy with non white males. 1220 0
Brekekekiwi @brekekekiwi.bsky.social · 29/03/2025When I was taught about the Stern Gang at school, that was the lesson I saw 000 0
Wessel van Rensburg @wildebees.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Hard to disaggregate, but my theory is that the financial crisis had a far bigger impact. Other countries did not have 9/11 but also have populist discontent. 000 0
NOT GREAT, BOB @existentialistist.bsky.social · 29/03/2025the crazy thing is that it was literally 3 people who created and ran the entire “war on terror” program, with zero oversight, because two of them discovered a loophole that allowed them to wield unlimited power with no stops. hint: bush wasn’t one of them. “the dark side” is a must read 020 0
Crazy TV Lenny’s free 10-speed @bsfromwis.bsky.social · 29/03/2025bsky.app/profile/bsfr...Crazy TV Lenny’s free 10-speed@bsfromwis.bsky.socialI had the thought in the last week or so that if OBL was still alive, he'd be acting pretty fucking smug right about now. 060 0
Isaac Aren @isaacaren.bsky.social · 29/03/2025I think the most compelling take away is that America is and always has been a terrorist, imperialist empire, and that the morality of American liberals hinges entirely on whether they like the president in charge 0190 0
"mr. riffs" @nigeloshea.bsky.social · 29/03/2025I've been saying that Bin Laden won for years. I mean fucking look at this place 140 0
Matt Rkiouak @rkiouak.com · 29/03/2025I think it's important to correctly expand that we did this to ourselves -- all we had to do were make different choices after 9/11. Instead we wasted 15 years, countless lives, countless dollars on enriching a few and destroying what remained of a durable middle class. 2633 0
Mezer-Kiss of Death @bananapantz.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Disagree. It was a choice. A choice by government. A choice to do foolish things, for bad reasons. With bad consequences. Nothing about the consequences of 9/11 were more than what we chose to do. Same with Trump and same with the real cause of this moment. 2170 0
Regnad Kcin @regnad.bsky.social · 29/03/2025I wouldn’t be so quick to blame 9-11. Sure. A lot of things may have turned out differently, but that’s more chaos butterfly than direct cause. The Internet and social media are the main culprit, through self segregation and malicious misinformation. 030 0
roland00 / Matthew @roland00.bsky.social · 29/03/2025sure, and while they are separate events I can not unsee Bush v Gore and 9/11 as connected for it created weird permissions structures and perversions 090 0
Justin 🇨🇦 @sardoniccomment.bsky.social · 30/03/2025In retrospect, it was brilliant. It should have been easy to bounce back from (New Yorkers did) but it’s a country of cowards. 000 0
Abby Normal @irishbynature.bsky.social · 29/03/2025As it was meant to. But the destruction wasn't done by the planes. 010 0
Somethingbytes @somethingbytes.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Something else dems in power just went along with 010 0
clean on opsec @maybeitsonlyus.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Al Qaeda Won foreignpolicy.com/2018/09/10/a...foreignpolicy.comAl Qaeda WonSeventeen years after the 9/11 attacks, the terrorists have definitively won the battle for the American mind. 061 0
Senator Dr. John Brown stan account, Esq., PhD, MD, JD, LCSW @johnbrownstan.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Maybe it all happens anyway, idk. Obviously the seeds were already present in Gingrich, Delay, Bush v. Gore, etc. But it's hard not to think that Iraq and Afghanistan were a big turning point that made it much harder for us to ever turn the ship around. 1144718 0
Pontiac Ventura @pontiac-ventura.bsky.social · 29/03/2025It works in that it can destroy, but that's the easy part compared to the bigger job of building something better afterwards. 000 0
TheUnusualBuddhist @jimbotron9k.bsky.social · 29/03/2025The Patriot Act as the direct result of 9/11 destroyed a whole lot of liberty. 090 0
BradybunchOZ @meganbrady.bsky.social · 29/03/2025As someone who has lived abroad and in the US since then, I concur. 020 0
Sneadly @sneadly.bsky.social · 29/03/2025I agree. First punch: Bush appointed. Second, 9/11. Third, torture. Those three events sent my opinion of my country into the basement. Watching martial law in New Orleans confirmed it. Even so, what’s happening now is still shocking. 060 0
fightingforjus.bsky.social @fightingforjus.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Bush never would’ve gotten a 2nd term without 9/11. Without his complete f up of the economy, there’s no Obama. Without Obama there’s no Trump. So you may be on to something. 040 0
Daniel Lenski @moxfyre.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Before 9/11 we didn't have concerns about immigration conflated with national security into a toxic stew of doing unspeakably cruel things to "foreigners." Americans+Canadians didn't need passports to cross the border. No one would claim that Mexicans coming to work in the US might be terrorists. … 100 0
beleiveinnothing.bsky.social @beleiveinnothing.bsky.social · 29/03/2025I would say it was the response to 9/11 that is destroying America all policy based on Israeli lies 000 0
tackerthetalker.bsky.social @tackerthetalker.bsky.social · 29/03/2025If Gore had been in office, I don’t believe we would have ever invaded, we would have started taking global warming seriously, our whole world would be in better shape. 3190 0
kmcm @kmcm.bsky.social · 29/03/2025SCOTUS set up 9/11 w its 2000 decision & W drove the country to a point of no return The US had enough intel to stop 9/11 before it happened with the right ppl in place Instead the Bush admin ignored it & then turned the country in a dark direction A cautionary tale for our current circumstances 010 0
Thomas Effing Paine @tom-effing-paine.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Well — terrorism has effects. But we didn't exactly stop interfering in the Middle East. 010 0
Helena Handbasket @tasteaccountant.bsky.social · 29/03/2025I also clocked 9/11 as the end of this country as we knew it. 000 0
Deport Elon 📎 @ledrapeaunoir.bsky.social · 29/03/2025It definitely created a boogeyman for republicans and helped Bush pass the patriot act that’s just been getting worse with every admin. It also destabilized the entire world and essentially gutted the US’s ability to call out other countries - like Russia. 010 0
Weekend Hippy @weekend-hippy.bsky.social · 29/03/2025That was just a great excuse. The Republicans, or whichever ginger group happened to own them at the time have been trying to upend your "democracy" for decades. 000 0
YRoy @evies13.bsky.social · 29/03/2025The US perma-obsessions with individualism; labelling everything it didn't like 'socialism'; unresolved and very obvious racism; refusal to control guns; worship of cash - these things all meant you were only ever one step away from becoming Trumpistan. 9/11 lit the fuse & a sense of vulnerability. 010 0
pavo @parlorturkey.bsky.social · 29/03/2025I think whatever caused *this* is whatever caused mass right wing polarization and the extreme-right takeover of the GOP. I honestly don't know if 9/11 figures much there: the heros were bipartisan, the wars were (shamefully) bipartisan, and the recognition of the wars' failure was bipartisan 130 0
Saundra @sauns.bsky.social · 29/03/2025The 2000 election SCOTUS ruling broke this once great nation. Having GWB at the helm during that period was devastating in a multitude of ways. 040 0
Phadrus @phadrus.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Terrorists did not succeed. Americans are responsible for their world. 010 0
carlosamammal.bsky.social @carlosamammal.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Yep. The terrorism hasn't stopped. I mean, nothing from overseas or anything, but whoo boy, your own governments have just kept on ramping it up until half your whole country is hopelessly lunatic! 000 0
BrentRN 🦅 @brentrn.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Trillions spent since 2001 on “security”. The deficit of today is mostly from defense spending. Yet the only cuts approved by the GOP are to civil service. 0110 0
Ryan Germann @ryangermann.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Well, the cancerous roots of the confederates still permeating US culture with the support of so-called "christians", the fascist takover of the US, fueled by cynicism among the electorate, feels like it was inevitable. 020 0
Loucifur's Mom @loucifursmom.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Heritage Foundation has been hard at work since their success with Reagan. 0110 0
Man on the Moon 97 @manonthemoon97.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Yes but nobody saw it coming that the next generation of terrorists would be sitting at the WH ! 000 0
Bselby @bselby88.bsky.social · 29/03/2025This is my feeling as well. When asked by anyone outside the USA about the mental breakdown of the country I point to 9/11 when Americans completely lost their collective mind. It still hasn’t recovered from this event in part because the Repugs reinforce the trauma for their political ends. 050 0
Domainophile @domainophile.bsky.social · 29/03/2025We did it to ourselves. Entirely. We had choices. We made the wrong ones. It could not have been any more obvious then, or now. Terrorism was a flea that caused an itch that we compulsively scratched until we ripped the flesh from our own bones. Terrorism didn't do us in, our national sickness did. 040 0
RogueArtistJen @rogueartistjen.bsky.social · 29/03/2025No, a cowardly compromising reaction to terrorism killed this country. One that was predicted. Scare the rich bad enough & they will secure everything for themselves & destroy whatever it takes to do so. Even their own country, rights & priviliges. They can just go to another one. 000 0
Anthony @yeahbutnahbut.bsky.social · 29/03/2025may as well put Bin Laden on Mt Rushmore for his influence on the nation's development 000 0
drgk @scschluter.bsky.social · 29/03/2025my pet theory is putin was behind 9/11 and he's been planning this takedown all along 210 0
R Caldwell 🇺🇸⚓️🇩🇪 @ctopia089.bsky.social · 29/03/2025No, REPUBLICANS did that all by themselves. The amount of world respect that Bush cost America is still being felt. Republican racism and bigotry got radicalized under Bush when he said "you are either with us, or against us"! 020 0
kensolar @kensolar.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Actually, what destroyed America was the Kennedy assassination and the Vietnam War. It all started there, the Hippie movement, the big divide. Then the Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Act guaranteed the crack stayed open. 100 0
EAll @ealluia.bsky.social · 29/03/20259/11 caused a severe rollback both formally and in terms of informal culture with respect to civil rights. Obama was an opportunity to push this fully back - and his primary success was in part built on the excited belief he would - but Obama turned out not to be that guy and ossified this for good. 1210 0
Brian D @singlepayer78.bsky.social · 29/03/2025I think it was black President more, driving half off the deep end 020 0
Ryan Martin @ryanamartin.bsky.social · 29/03/2025I think destruction was inevitable after Bush v Gore 0110 0
KPD Max von Sydnow @mpdeejay.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Bin Laden's goal was to goad the United States into a self-destructive overreaction that would lead to a Soviet-style collapse and he did. He won. 1112 0
Big Dick Enbergy (544 Followers) @andymays.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Instead of fighting the War on Terrorism, imagine if we had just taken the $2 trillion and dotted the world with fission reactors. 000 0
Mat G @gienieczko.com · 29/03/2025I think Bush v Gore is a strong contender, but yes, both on an abstract "spirit of the nation" level as well as on a technical "expansion of executive power literally never turns out fine in the long run" level. 080 0
it's an uncivil war @lucyksy.bsky.social · 29/03/2025This country was built on genocide, slavery, capitalism, and imperialism. This is not just some sudden downturn. 9/11 was a case of the chickens coming home to roost. Countries all over the world have had war in their homelands. Why should the US be any different? 0100 0
mysticlawyer @mysticlawyer.bsky.social · 29/03/2025It had help. From greedy, self-righteous Republicans, and feckless, short-sighted Democrats. 050 0
TrixxyIL @trixxyil.bsky.social · 29/03/2025This indemnifies the W administration. Cheney slapped our worldwide allies in the face when he deflected OUR attention from OBL to Saddam Hussein. THAT was the moment we lost our ethical and moral advantage. OBL attacked us and united the world against him. Cheney wanted to settle old scores. 000 0
wioozyi @wiooyxzy.bsky.social · 29/03/2025Class of '01 here, yup, what a lucky year to be going marines 000 0
emmett @emmettroserose.bsky.social · 29/03/2025911 was an act of war and we should have responded as such 100 0
