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Think Your Book Is Done? It Probably Needs Three More Drafts & Other Writing Advice from Brad Listi
Welcome, writers and book lovers. The Bleeders is a podcast about book writing and publishing. https://thebleeders.substack.com/welcome: https://thebleeders.substack.com/welcome
Today’s guest is Brad Listi, author of https://bookshop.org/a/85623/9781632461360, host of the long-running https://www.otherppl.com/ podcast, and founder of the new literary learning platform Deep Dive. After decades in the business, Brad has a delightfully candid perspective on what it takes to build a writing career these days—and why talent and hard work are only part of the equation.
In this episode, Brad takes us through his publishing journey, from his MFA and selling his debut novel in his twenties to launching the influential literary community The Nervous Breakdown, building an audience through podcasting, and writing his latest book, Be Brief and Tell Them Everything. We get into rejection, the myth that platform automatically translates into book sales, and the financial realities of being a writer.
Plus, Brad shares what 1,000 author interviews have taught him, why reading should be part of the job, and his unfiltered advice for writers trying to get published.
Subscribe to https://bradlisti.substack.com/welcome and listen to the https://www.otherppl.com/ podcast. Follow him on https://www.instagram.com/otherppl.podcast/ @otherppl.podcast, and buy your copy of Be Brief and Tell Them Everything on https://bookshop.org/a/85623/9781632461360, https://amzn.to/4dIUFsz, or wherever books are sold!
Get your copy of Courtney's debut memoir Girl Gone Wild from https://bookshop.org/a/85623/9781949487541 or https://amzn.to/3M7EYR5.
The Bleeders is hosted by Courtney Kocak. Follow her on https://www.instagram.com/courtneykocak/ and https://bsky.app/profile/courtneykocak.bsky.social. For more, check out her website https://courtneykocak.com/links.
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