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Feel like it's often conveniently ignored that a 'polarising' opinion doesn't invalidate the opinion.

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obseyxx.bsky.social @obseyxx.bsky.social · 6h

This really gets to the heart of a lot of the shrieking about this motion doesn't it? For liberals, racism is overwhelmingly an individual failing and to be called racist is beyond the pale ("all Zionists are the same as Nick Griffin!") Racism as power and systems doesn't enter minds

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 1h

I'm really quite fed up of being an embittered former Corbyn supporter who is absolutely nothing like the straw leftist we're all painted as. It's just so lazy.

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 2h

The fundamental rupture with the Greens right now is not primarily about people it's about failures of process. Everyone inside the party needs to take responsibility and everybody outside should be expected to do everything but help.

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flyingrodent @flyingrodent.bsky.social · 5h

I invite you do notice what *doesn’t* cross a very significant red line. Genocide isn’t even nearly a deal-breaker, politicians can fly out to have their photos taken grinning next to the Israeli PM without a peep. It’s not fully adopting the policies, rhetoric and optics of then National Front.

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The Green Party has urgent work to do, writes @carolinelucas.bsky.social
The "Zionism is racism" motion crossed a very significant red line

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Tom Usher @tomusher.bsky.social · 5h

Nick Griffin and Zionism (as it is in practice): - Far right ✅ - Ethno-nationalist ✅ - heavily anti immigration (unless a part of correct ethnicity) ✅ - believe in “voluntary resettlement” ✅

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 7h

This call is ambiguous but 'transforming internal structures' should be about deepening and stregthening democracy not controlling it. Thus a leader showing 'leadership' is not forcing their will but facilitating member led change.

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 7h

The Greens becoming popular has been a disaster apparently. All the same climate and environmental politics are there just no longer in a harmless little fringe party you can pat on the head.

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The Green Party of England & Wales @greenparty.org.uk · 21h

The Greens aren't waiting for Labour to deliver change. We're setting the agenda, holding the government to account and showing why getting more Green MPs makes a difference.

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 08/10/2026

You just know (dread) Galloway's 3% will hand Labour the seat.

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 08/10/2026

Really feels that from the birth of Twitter, the habit of reading what are usually anonymous posts, by tiny accounts possibly not even run by a human and then using them to make judgments on entire areas of politics has been a net negative, counterproductive use of time.

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 07/10/2026

A perfectly fair and reasonable response. I just hope the party has the internal resilience to accept and continue discussions on difference moving forward (beyond the noise outside).

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 07/10/2026

Been feeling this a lot today reading some serious psychoanalysis straw about the character of 'the left'.

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Phil McDuff @mcduff.bsky.social · 07/10/2026

This is, of course, simply a rhetorical play act. Suppose that people do "condemn" all these people? Well, you didn't do it enough. Did you contextualise anything? Stop that. Be more unequivocal. Now hop on one leg. I found someone not condemning them - do you condemn them too?

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 07/10/2026

Having proportionate criticisms of elements of left politics only for those differences to feel utterly irrelevant in the face of absolutely unhinged attacks from the centre/right is just the cycle some of us can't escape.

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Alasdair Mackenzie @alasdairmackenzie.bsky.social · 07/10/2026

Once again, the framing on this sort of stuff is so poor: a) the Labour right have already made clear they’d rather disembowel themselves than share power w the left b) if compromise is impossible, why should the Greens agree to a coalition with the party of genocide support and legitimate concerns?

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 07/10/2026

Absolutely right that political parties should not be hijacked simply for protest causes. But they are still ALSO protest movements. The mantra 'we are not a party of protest' is what has led the Labour Party to a place where it's arresting OAPs for holding signs.

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Sad mazov @sadmazov.bsky.social · 07/10/2026

He did an hour long press conference with a bunch of experts on the climate 2 months ago and the entire MSM ignored it Stuart www.youtube.com/live/bsTXZ2V...

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Zack Polanski delivers an urgent message to the Prime Minister

YouTube video by Bold Politics with Zack Polanski

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flyingrodent @flyingrodent.bsky.social · 07/10/2026

I’m sorry, but this is a fantasy. The *entire point of all this* for ten years has been 1) Absolutely fuck you, the left does not get any kind of power, ever, 2) We will do and say literally anything, whatever it takes, to ensure this never happens and 3) Britain does what America wants, full stop.

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Let me try this once more.
It was a choice.
EITHER the Greens adopted a slogan.
OR they could have joined the next govt, where they could push for an end to arms sales, sanctions, support for the arrest warrants etc.
It was never going to be both.
Which one makes a material difference?
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Some people here don't seem to have understood the purpose of a political party.
It's not the same as a protest movement.
It is a vehicle designed to get into
government, to change legislation and make a material difference to the lives of people at home and abroad. 2/2

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 07/10/2026

The Greens are committed to iternal democracy which needs deepening and more care and attention. But Zack is never going to be the model top down leader in the mold of such recent Guardian greats as say, Keir Starmer. www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...

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Zack Polanski had the chance to show real leadership. He blew it | Rafael Behr

A toxic debate over anti-Zionism leaves the Green leader looking like a passenger in the movement that carried him to the top, says Guardian columnist Rafael Behr

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flyingrodent @flyingrodent.bsky.social · 07/10/2026

For example, here is Tony Blair lecturing the self-indulgent western left for failing to help millions of Palestinians, from his position on Donald Trump’s panel established specifically to facilitate and finessetheir destruction as a people.

When misguided or malevolently guided activists in Western countries campaign for Zionism to be delegitimized, they do more than cause affront to Israel and to the Jewish community across the world. They harm the Palestinian cause-the very cause they say they support.
Palestinians know Israel will continue to exist. They know that if there were a one-state solution how unlikely it would be that such a state would be Palestinian. What's more, resolutions like the one just passed by the Greens simply provide fodder for those on the far right in Israel, who also believe that Palestinians and Israelis can never live in peace.

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Oliver @oliver48.bsky.social · 06/10/2026

via EvolvePolitics

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 06/10/2026

I didn't back the ZIR motion and I don't know the people that drew it up - but it seems depressing that many don't even think to open up some kind of dialogue with its authors before making a decision to up and leave the party.

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 06/10/2026

If the Greens start curating policy so as not to offend the Labour Party's high moral standards so as to earn a place at the table post election it's over.

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Dracula is a Secret Yorkshireman (also Dog) @bignewgraphz.bsky.social · 06/10/2026

My name is Luke Akehurst MP and I would have loved to work with the Greens and I am distraught that this means I will no longer be able to

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 06/10/2026

Labour would never work with the Greens in any case. This is nothing but a show for the press and an oppotunity to put the boot in.

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flyingrodent @flyingrodent.bsky.social · 05/10/2026

Put it this way: if the Greens, Kneecap and Gary Lineker are prompting enraged all-channels screaming fury but e.g. an army seizing, depopulating and ethnically cleansing southern Lebanon of its racially undesirable populace doesn’t make anyone blink, then I am going to conclude - bullshit

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 06/10/2026

I remember way back that white kid with dreadlocks being filmed in an argument about appropriation and then there was a whole article in the Guardian titled sth like 'no random guy in that video, here's why you're wrong' and it was like why are you addressing him like he's involved?

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 06/10/2026

Thought this discussion with Ash was excellent.

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 06/10/2026

RIP the worst celebrity fan ever.

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 06/10/2026

Now Labour won't ever work with the Greens? Labour would sooner work with Farage than anything to their left who represent the ultimate threat.

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flyingrodent @flyingrodent.bsky.social · 06/10/2026

And I’d add: while it’s true that this motion has given all manner of political and media shitehawks the excuse they wanted to go apeshit, it’s also true that *they need no excuse*, that they have been going apeshit for at least a decade and that they do it regardless of what anybody says or does.

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David Timoney @fromarsetoelbow.bsky.social · 05/10/2026

None of the claims made here are true, but that's beside the point. What matters is the suggestion that certain people should not be subject to purity tests, while others should. For example, raise Palestine and you will be asked if you think Israel has the right to exist.

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flyingrodent @flyingrodent.bsky.social · 05/10/2026

On the topic of extremism, by the way: every episode of this guy’s podcast that I’ve listened to* has included a section where he’s had to explain to either his wingnut cohost or a crank guest that Israel can’t just kill everyone then call anyone who complains Hamas, because that will upset people.

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Yair Wallach @yairwallach.bsky.social · 05/10/2026

Edward Said on Zionism: Q: What you are saying is that Israelis should know that, like white South Africans, they have a right to stay as long as they give up their ideology. A: Yes, an ideology that denies the rights of others. Q: So what is needed is a process of de-Zionization?...

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Zack Polanski @zackpolanski.bsky.social · 05/10/2026

Ms Dent Coad said: “Holborn and St Pancras needs an MP who understands that the current housing model has failed those who need genuinely affordable homes, and who will support leaseholders battling an archaic system that disadvantages and silences them." www.standard.co.uk/news/politic...

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Ex-Labour MP enters Holborn and St Pancras by-election battle by backing Polanski

Emma Dent Coad said that residents should be looking for somebody to stand up for them on housing policy

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 05/10/2026

Are we expected not to follow the pattern here?

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 05/10/2026

There has to be one party that doesn't weigh every policy decision on focus group feedback and electoral marketing strategies. Good motions will come to pass that aren't necessarily advantageous to media scrutiny and polling in the short term. That should not become the primary concern.

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David Wearing @davidwearing.bsky.social · 05/10/2026

A party that approaches difficult, fraught issues through open, constructive dialogue is more likely to attract members and voters than one that approaches such issues through proscription and disciplinary procedures. That's also the surest route to the correct, principled outcome on such issues.

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David Wearing @davidwearing.bsky.social · 04/10/2026

For me, these are issues best addressed through open and robust conversations, in which we both speak and listen. They are not issues that should be litigated through disciplinary processes. It is the former approach that is more likely to lead to a durable outcome.

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 05/10/2026

100%. Respond to 'is the party too democratic?' with 'no, it's not democratic enough'.

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 05/10/2026

Sad to hear these were the arguments used.

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 04/10/2026

So important. Holding space for internal disagreement must be a priority for the party at this point.

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 04/10/2026

There should be a little tournament for all the clubs cheated out of trophies by Man City with a winner takes all the honours prize.

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flyingrodent @flyingrodent.bsky.social · 04/10/2026

This is nuts, lads: one of these parties had an internal hate campaign that bent the rules to bully and hound out a huge number of Jewish people over their views on Israel/Palestine. It wasn’t the Green Party, was it?

Lewis Goodall C @lewis_goodall
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The Greens have a Labour PM committed to electoral reform at precisely the moment they've essentially made it nearly impossible for that same Lab PM to go into coalition with them.
lee harpin @ @lmharpin-7h
Amendment 3 on safeguarding Jews has failed to pass 684 - 1026! Absolutely shameful !!!

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 04/10/2026

Please see below as example of how "'Zionism is Racism'. Discuss" requires more than a single post conclusion (whatever that conclusion may be).

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Huw I @huwinslow.bsky.social · 04/10/2026

I could have just about defended the (ZIR) motion despite not backing it if some of those key amendments had been passed. Now I really can't so what members think rejecting them has achieved I have no idea.

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Ian M @marriotti67.bsky.social · 04/10/2026

Bristol United.

Rovers and City fans with anti fascist banners at the Canle Street March.

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