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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン

@rakyll.org
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Principal Engineer at Google. Simplicity and optimism. Personal opinions.

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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 20/03/2025
The only reason I became interested in this domain is everything is analogous to message handling systems and eventing which I had a ton of experience. I can clearly say that AI systems are behind of the systems we designed in early 2000s.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 20/03/2025
Just to keep things honest, the longetivity of a system in this field isn’t that long. Due to continuous capability growth, there are new major challenges every day other than the foundations.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 20/03/2025
The lack of systems thinking in AI production systems is destroying my soul. It’s a major cultural challenge and most of the best engineers I know stay away from this field due to past burnout.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 20/03/2025
There isn’t a single good example of a foundational model access API that provides composibility layers, bidirectional multimodal streaming, and optionally state management. People often get two of them correctly, not all three.
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Aaron Reichlin-Melnick @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social · 19/03/2025
IMHO, a large portion of this failure has been caused by the collapse of Congress over the last decade. Congress, in essence, no longer functions as a co-equal branch of government.
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cait (and adonis) @cait.bsky.social · 11/02/2025
can the entire world government be cool for like 5 minutes i'm kind of going through a lot rn
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 04/02/2025
The org boundaries are arbitrary!
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 02/02/2025
Almost all major projects I worked on started by 2-3 people sitting in the same meeting room and coding while debating for hours every day without any other distraction.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 02/02/2025
I think we will!
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 01/02/2025
We are close partners. This only lets me think broadly rather than overfitting systems onto our own ;)
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 01/02/2025
Never bet against the wish of people who are trying to build things by composition and open source. Building a few critical foundational blocks in this space will be more important than ever in the next few years.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 01/02/2025
Never bet against a few passionate people who want to unblock tens of thousands of companies.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 01/02/2025
When you zoom in, you see the same stages underneath a single company too. - Early stage: Elitism among teams - Advanced stage: Monopoly on decision making and execution - Terminal stage: Blaming successful teams Culture matters. It can save you or accelerate your decline to the terminal stage.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 01/02/2025
Decentralize everything. Open things where possible. Everyone wins.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 01/02/2025
The biggest winner of the AI race will be distributed systems people. Everything is converging onto a distributed network of stuff and it is only accelerating in the last two years.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 01/02/2025
I'm very very very abstracted away from the accelerator.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 01/02/2025
Everyone is in this for different reasons, but this is my personal reason. I'm looking for systems paradigms that make sense for this domain. Even though all the churn and burden, I wake up every morning because I'm passionately curious about the answer 😉
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 01/02/2025
People are wondering why I'm enjoying the LLM period: - Thick client vs thin client fight - Actor model vs RPC fight As an engineer, I cannot think of a better way to challenge our conventional thinking. It entertains me intellectually but is also making me a better engineer.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 24/01/2025
For someone who is programming for over 30 years, it's hard for me to believe every system, every model, every chip, every program will be fungible and regeneratable. There will be new systems/patterns that will end up becoming the new infra overlords, we just don't know which.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 17/01/2025
When you have a highly ambiguous systems problem, try to solve it for the distributed case first. When you solve it for the distributed case, it's easy to pack things together in a monolith. The opposite is almost always impossible.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 16/01/2025
Good software engineering is about encapsulating complexity while avoiding hiding away failure modes.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 09/01/2025
This month is my last at Google. In a month, I'm joining Google DeepMind. Our job will be making DeepMind's work publicly available in ways that wasn't possible before. While this is one of the biggest challenges in my life, it's potentially going to be the most rewarding.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 07/01/2025
Building is very easy but it also lowers the bar to build stupid things.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 07/01/2025
I like to be used as OCD as a service.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 07/01/2025
The most fascinating reality to me is you have to build a whole new person around languages you speak, especially if they have distinct communication styles or are from different language families.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 07/01/2025
In my experience, people will express themselves most effectively when allowed to converse in the language they feel best suits the topic, regardless of their native language(s). Consistency within that language is the key for the best.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 07/01/2025
Perhaps most importantly, many people feel they have to change their personality to fit the communication style and culture of a particular language. Switching between these personas can be detrimental, especially if the conversation is about a difficult, nuanced topic.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 07/01/2025
Trying to have a deep, meaningful conversation in three languages is an exercise in futility. The mental juggling and context switch inevitably distracts even native speakers. Speaking multiple languages myself, I wouldn't put anyone through that, not even my worst enemy.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 07/01/2025
I am debating how close I became to retirement and people are in denial because they knew that I always wanted to work until 80s. My justification is simple: I don't want to stop working. I want to start working ;)
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 07/01/2025
We need to normalize being a solo developer again.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 07/01/2025
Finally work, preferably on open source stuff!
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 07/01/2025
This is the closest I've ever come to truly wanting to retire. It's a complicated feeling.
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Steve Klabnik @steveklabnik.com · 07/01/2025
WARNING: This product contains programming languages known to the State of California to cause memory unsafety
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 07/01/2025
2012-2020
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 07/01/2025
Immersing myself in the Dune universe for an entire day, with "Prophecy" and both films, was probably not ideal before coming back to work after a long holiday. I'm now completely indoctrinated against the thinking machines.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 07/01/2025
And this is exactly why I'll die alone 😂
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 07/01/2025
The reliance on mental models is pervasive, especially in tech when navigating complex problems because it takes months to craft good documents about them. These models become so deeply ingrained that even slight alterations trigger significant resistance, almost looking like a survival mechanism.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 07/01/2025
I am genuinely surprised to learn that reading a document could make you physically sick. It seems our brains can become so entrenched in a particular way of thinking that encountering alternative perspectives, even similar ones, feels like a violation, almost a primal rejection.
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Neil Renic @ncrenic.bsky.social · 04/12/2024
Two stages of writing: 1) This shouldn't take too long 2) Oh no
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 03/12/2024
Once big mountains are very hard to move, people only work on tactical problems. Then, you end up with a saturation of narrow use case projects.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 02/12/2024
Going back to grad school :)
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 02/12/2024
Large language models made few hard problems in NLP and IR relatively tackable for the first time in my lifetime. Working on agglutinative languages, we table flipped on several of these problems without much progress 20 years ago. In the last two years, I’m actually considering going back.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 02/12/2024
Travel sucks. I have been doing nothing but sleeping in the last 72 hours with fever (+nightmares) due to stomach flu. I ate almost nothing in the last three days. I’m slowly recovering but I’ve never experienced anything like this before and it’s been harder than the hardest recovery.
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adafruit @adafruit.com · 02/12/2024
RadioShack Crystal Phone (1990s)📞✨
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 28/11/2024
Cooking continues with 🐓…
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 28/11/2024
Roasted beets with goat cheese and walnuts as a salad.
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 28/11/2024
Cooking begins! 🦃
BeetsRutabaga
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 27/11/2024
It’s business!
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 27/11/2024
Yea, that’s what I’m venting about 😂
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Jaana Dogan ヤナ ドガン @rakyll.org · 27/11/2024
💯
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