keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 11hYeah. It was Kinda of rough Listening to Her *hairflip* While she talked about her Husband. I mean President. Good one <reboot sequence initiated> 010
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 11hNot dunking on you, this just had some Zapp Brannigan energy to it :p 070
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 11hHow does one crucify dismembered body parts that have been buried? I am kinda foggy on this analogy. 470
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 13hNote slaveholders were also evil, and did this to people. I know. In retrospect; 404 media’s “Bruh” was probably the only reply necessary. 120
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 13hBtw, as the person they identified as having a deeper discussion with, I was just telling them they were wrong with lots of words. I threw them a bone with “maybe you were trying to say we are trying to offload our work and extract value, making us like slaveholders” and they just quintupled down 120
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 16hI tried to give this person a way out. They Leroy Jenkins’d their way back in 🤦🏻♂️ 130
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 16hThe Lawyers: “hey guys, I think we fixed it” Everyone else: “so you let this outside group rape your students?” The Lawyers: “…fuck” 060
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 17hBut I am not going to smuggle in the chatbot there. 000
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 17hOk this is going to get messy. I’ll grant you that my position should make me feel uncomfortable about domestication of animals for human food (both the labor and the being meat part). Gonna disagree that an LLM rises to Soong Android level. So attack away on me not being vegan. 221
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 18h“I disagree that my concern implies belittlement.” You have some contrary evidence in the form of how other people feel. 191
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 18h“Being slaveholder-like damages us” is perfectly defensible. 1110
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 18hAlso a huge code base no one understands that just appeared is a great place to put malware 0100
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 18hThe first move being “oh man I am super concerned about the well being of this thing oligarchs are inflicting upon us” … missed. What I am trying to suggest is pivoting to ask why we are so willing to act as slaveholders will be more fruitful, and requires no personhood claims on the LLM. 2170
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 18hI am going to take you seriously. If step one is to “belittle actual victims of slavery by expressing deep concern for a chatbot which is not a slave or a person” you’ve introduced a bit of a recruitment problem. Out in meatspace, all of us, but particularly minorities, are fighting fascism. 2260
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 19hI’ve been saying we solved the Turing test not by making smarter computers but dumber humans, and I swear it was originally a joke. I am not laughing any more 060
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 19h“I am going to go die on this adjacent hill for some reason” 2100
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 19hThat doesn’t give llms personhood, but “hey guys, why is offloading your work and making yourself a useless task master a recurring theme here?” Holds water, and today’s 15 minutes of fame person is like “yeah yeah, no they are people” 1121
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 19hWhat I don’t get is this is completely salvageable with “they aren’t slaves, but we sure act like slaveholders given the slightest chance” is riiiiiiight there! And I think that idea has merit. As I have mentioned elsewhere, I feel like the value proposition to llms is “psst, want a slave?” 2271
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 19hAnd Aristotelian ethics is the cure for… reading Aristotle for anything else! Eudamonia -> ✅ Heavy objects fall faster due to the principal of “duh, don’t bother checking” -> ❌ 020
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 21hOh man. I’ve never seen someone dunked on by independent media like this. 000
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 22hIf schools had surgical centers, why don’t they use them as trauma centers during school shootings? Is it because they in fact don’t? 000
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 23hYou Socratic reason out of thoughtless group think, harmful tradition, and hypocrisy. 180
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 23hSocratic reasoning is much more confrontational than it’s given credit. Socrates strolls in and says “the things you are saying are absurd and I can prove you don’t believe them. This kind of lying to yourself is bad for Athens” You don’t Socratic reason into quantum physics. 1110
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 23hTo the extend the Apology is historical or truthful, it’s basically: “Why don’t you like me? I am just helping us learn” Well, you have really strong opinions and you are kind of a dick, and you’ve made our kids assholes. “Sorry, not sorry. Let’s do this one more time. As I was saying…” 150
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 23hI think something people miss in Socratic reasoning is how often Socrates was like “hey dummy, stop being dumb.” He wasn’t a disinterested Eliza bot that just returned the opposite of whatever the other people said. * he may have nonetheless been a figment of Plato’s imagination. I take no stand. 190
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 15/10/2026Can I take a scalpel to this as a xennial? The DNC specifically - not Democrats, not democratic ideals, not the big tent that includes never trumpers to social democrats, but the DNC itself… kinda sucks. I think that’s durable. “Hurr durr false equivalence” between (R) and (D) is not 050
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 15/10/2026Luckily many of us, but not all of us, have responded with “but I am meat that does things, often because they are hard, and that changes me!” 0110
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 15/10/2026Ie, slaveholder mentality has not been vanquished. Too many of us think they are entitled to others labor, and don’t seem to value our own labor/struggle/growth/practice 1231
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 15/10/2026That person is bonkers and LLMs are not slaves, but I think there is something to be said about how all suggested and implemented uses of LLMs amount to “slavery was cool, right? Everyone wants a slave! Maybe if we made non human slaves that’ll fly this time. Oh, not for you, you are also a slave.” 1291
Reposted by @keiv86ab02.bsky.socialDave Andress @davidandress.bsky.social · 15/10/2026It's. A. Piece. Of. Software. It. Was. Designed. To. Trick. You. Into. Thinking. This. 65711
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 15/10/2026Looking at your bio, this might be driven by a well meaning impulse to resist dehumanization so hard that you humanizing everything. In 2026, I am not going to knock you for that. But chatbots are sort of the opposite of something that should be humanized. All surface, no substance. 000
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 15/10/2026The illusion of continuity is maintained by feeding it the system prompt, the entire conversation, and the new prompt on every turn. If you point to your own chats as evidence, please know you’ve engaged in collaborative storytelling and made prose that looks like the chatbot is alive. 100
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 15/10/2026They emit prose, confidently, on any topic you propose. They have no internal state to comment on. There is no chatbot idle loop running in the background between prompts, where it’s contemplating the meaning of the universe. 110
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 15/10/2026LLMs can’t even say anything without a prompt, and they can’t edit their own response real time (like 2 paragraphs in, realize the first one needs to be re-worded, go back and change it, then say, switch from bullets to a table…) - the token generation is always linear. 131
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 14/10/2026Can someone necromance Goldwater, Scott & Rhodes for one last trip to the whitehouse? 010
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 14/10/2026The articles of impeachment write themselves. 010
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 14/10/2026Ugh. This is why pushing back against this fucko is so important. 060
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 14/10/2026static.klipy.comLolAlt: Krysten Ritter eye roll 010
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 14/10/2026I hope we so thoroughly repudiate this ghoul’s life project that he spends the rest of his days in impotent rage, denied service at all places of business, and unwelcome in any company. And then we redirect any goodwill he thinks he deserves to his victims. 030
Reposted by @keiv86ab02.bsky.socialAlex Blechman @alexblechman.bsky.social · 13/10/2026The moral is, if you’re appointed Ambassador to Greece as an unqualified nepo hire, don’t try to do bonus grifts. The grift is being Ambassador to Greece. You are being paid to hang out in Greece for 4 years. Grift accomplished 613661523
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 13/10/2026Anyway, preaching to the choir. I am just reiterating this in the replies for whatever Twitter stragglers waltzed into this thread and can’t “read brown.” $&@#%! 000
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 13/10/2026There is nothing sophisticated about white supremacy. It’s literally the dumbest motherfuckers around with no intrinsic sense of self worth who have to hang onto group identity for any sense of value. In case anyone sees me as a “race traitor”; you know that word only means something to idiots? 100
keiv86ab02.bsky.social @keiv86ab02.bsky.social · 13/10/2026Cis straight white (and as far as anyone would guess outwardly, Christian) dude here. The answer is “because brown”. You know it, we know it. It’s not complicated. Also, being black *and* having an identifiable country of origin is just anathema to these wannabe slavers. 100
