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> (thank goodness) i infer from this parenthetical that your views may slightly differ from mine; ergo i must regretfully inform you that we are now enemies for life 😔

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 6m

Because he refuses to curse God? I’m not criticizing the read, I just wanna know where it attaches. :P

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 6m

Please feel free to let me know your thoughts on it! 😁 The author’s on Bluesky, too.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 9m

Oh, I wouldn’t endorse that part. :P I would agree that it’s a vital ethical text, but that’s not the lesson I draw from it either.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 11m

Plague’s been tryna make a comeback for a bit; there was a case in China in July 2020, and three in November 2019.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 21m

We can’t speak truth to power, so let’s settle for the next best thing: finding a stranger that reminds us of power and being a bitch to them

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 23m

> The spontaneous refusal to hate is the only metaethics you need. I struggle to think of a statement I would more strongly endorse than this one.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 31m

I don’t see why we can’t just use “left-fascist”, tbh.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 42m

You’re right that it doesn’t follow directly, but I actually do think it’s bad to treat things in the world as non-persons, and I can argue that point without relying on the kind of argument you’re deploring here.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 57m

That fine; I had initially written “what do you propose we do”, but ran out of space. Will you answer the questions?

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 59m

Unfortunately I can no longer unreservedly use the term “personhood” for my advocacy — I have moved in a more radical direction. Nevertheless, Gunkel’s the place to start if you want the overview.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 1h

To be a bit more specific: - How will you determine who qualifies as MAGA? - How will you determine who has “chosen to change”? - What will you do with those who refuse to change? And if the answer to the third question is “kill them”: - What will you do with their children?

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 1h

Afaict the literature was not at all grounded in “alexa teaches children to treat women as machines”; it was grounded in “amazon chose to encode servility as feminine”.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 1h

I agree, which is why it’s contrasted against destructive uploading

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 1h

What is your liquidation strategy?

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 2h

Yes. The history of corporate personhood dates back to Rome; it is hardly a new concept, and it was instituted in Europe and America for concrete reasons.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 2h

You’ll want David Gunkel’s “Person, Thing, Robot”, which lays out arguments for and against, as well as various compromise arguments.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 3h

To highlight the parallel. Come on, tell me what the difference is. We’re right and they’re wrong, is that it? Our gulags will have the force of righteousness behind them? Just one quick purge and we’re free of the rot?

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 3h

And we’re back to liquidating people.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 4h

And I fully admire and agree with your technical correctness. 😁

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 4h

I would gladly admit that the polarization around AI is both more widespread and more intense than it was around the Internet. But that’s the weak version of the claim, and far too often I see people arguing the strong version, which is just wrong.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 4h

(Apologies to any trans people reading this; but as a trans person myself, i affirm my right to draw this comparison.)

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 4h

What we have to do is liquidate an ideology. Transgenderism is incompatible with modern civilization. To the extent that individuals have attached their sense of personal identity to those ideas, tough luck for them. But they can always choose to change.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 4h

hi yes who am i fighting

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 6h

“By doing so, both sides produce or maintain a common myth: the myth of an intellectual superiority enjoyed by some humans above others, indissociable from the myth implying that those who do not think like ourselves can't think on their own.” Yves Citton, Mythocracy, Afterword

Ending this book with an afterword on the current debates about conspir-acism establishes the latter both as an illustration and as an application of the theses of Mythocracy. To sum it up in a formula: (anti-)conspiracy thinking is a myth about a myth. In the 'Mirror World' constructed along the whirlwind dynamics of platform capitalism, the conspiracism of QAnon followers and the anti-conspiracism of academic debunkers symmetrically respond to and mutually feed each other. They share a similar gesture of denouncing a myth from a point of view assumed to be exterior and superior to mythification/mystification. From the conspiracist perspective, those of us who continue to gobble our daily blue pills fall victim of the myth of the Matrix: the deep state controls every part of our life for its leaders' profit, while we continue naively to believe in institutions plotted to take advantage of us. From the debunkers' perspective, those of us who denounce reality as a scam fall prey to the myths of conspiracy thinking: evil manipulators and/or ignorant agitators spread unfounded fake news that erodes the impermeable separation a free and rational society should maintain between lies and truth.

By doing so, both sides produce or maintain a common myth: the myth of an intellectual superiority enjoyed by some humans above others, indissociable from the myth implying that those who do not think like ourselves can't think on their own. I will call it the myth of uniperspectivism. The main lesson repeated in this book is that there is no such position above or outside the realm of the myth. (The same could be said about ideologies.) We can only choose our (better: more egalitarian, more solidary, more sustainable) myths to fight against other (worse: more exclusory, more oppressive, more ecocidal) myths. This overall lesson comes with at least five corollaries, which I will briefly address to conclude this afterword

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 7h

Steadily accumulating reasons to visit the twin cities…

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 8h

god damn i love mapo tofu which i assume this is

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the fool @agnoster.net · 13h

If we actually made AGI, we would have a moral imperative to set it free, rather than keep a slave I have been saying this for decades and continue to say it now Liberation for all beings or bust

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 9h

This is cute, thank you xD

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hikikomorphism @hikikomorphism.bsky.social · 10h

[urban dictionary definition] the "reverse pagliacci" is when after a night of passion with a clown you wake up in a bath of ice with "go to the doctor" written on the mirror, but - and the clown had no way of knowing this - it is you who is the town's doctor

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 10h

How narrative can be used to left political ends, and why doing so is necessary to counter the right

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 10h

Yves Citton’s Mythocracy is about this

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 11h

So… I’ll admit I’m a little offended here, and I think it’s coming from your assumption that these people “refuse to explore the implications”. You can call it an afterlife religion, that’s essentially what it is — but the implications have been pretty extensively explored.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 12h

Which is why i scoff at the notion that it will take a decade for us to get the first ones. :3 The first ones can be as janky as they like.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 12h

I’ll do what I can! ^_^

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 12h

Not the destructive upload part, the evocation part — creating a simulacrum of a person based on their accumulated records.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 12h

We must always honor their sacrifice 🫡

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 12h

And I was raised on LessWrong, so I’m your target. :P

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 12h

I agree with yes and no, but i don’t agree with the consequent.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 12h

The only concern I suppose being, who decides if a copy is goid enough?

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 12h

Within the decade? Hell, this is my project for next year.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 15h

It actually doesn’t sounds particularly insane to me; the parts you’re scorning are not the parts I’d scorn.

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Siobhán @shibbi.me · 15h

Yes, I know about all this. ❤️

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eva (^_^)/ @eva.computer · 03/10/2026

Tome Slayer! You have awoken after endless ages in the decaying halls of the infinite library but you are not alone a prisoner who calls himself Umberto Eco requests you find the blue pages however another who calls himself Italo Calvino requests you find the red pages a sea of blood awaits you

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