So over the last couple weeks, I’ve been talking to VCs and founders who have and haven’t taken VC to learn whether it makes sense for Kinopio. I don’t think it does.

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Jason Cohen of WP Engine fame introduced Mark to Jonathan Slain at Recession.com earlier this year. He and the WP Engine team work with Jonathan and found he is a pretty interesting guy. We invited him on the podcast to discuss how SaaS and software companies can prepare for, and take advantage of, a recession.