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I feel for you. I hope you don't let it get to you. I'm trying to turn the other cheek, but it is difficult. Ultimately, I know what I stand for, and more importantly, against.

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Stopping the genocide will take unified action by Europe and the US. But neither you nor I know what it will take to make that happen. One thing that won't work is a motion that states Isael should no longer exist as a state. All your motion has done is led to condemnation and a police referral

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Stop being so fucking patronising. It's this pissy, toxic behaviour that made me leave. You have passed a motion that does nothing. You haven't stopped the genocide. You haven't saved any Palestinian lives. You just ruined the Green party, and aren't willing to admit the damage you have done.

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I am so tired of this i will explain one more time. The motion called for the eradication of Israel. Doing this was a act of such heroic stupidity and self inflicted damage that it ought to be wearing a cape. This is why I disagree with the motion. I hope this is clear for you.

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If you are a sincere person, then please tell me what has this motion done to prevent the genocide or help the Palestinian people? I think by damaging the Green Party this motion has prevented Zack being elected, and prevented a voice in parliament that would have looked to end the genocide.

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This, it's this attitude that is toxic. Also, calling out racism isn't toxic either, but advocating for the erasure of Israel is. This motion hasn't stopped the genocide. All it has done is damaged a party that opposed the genocide. It could also have stopped people voting for Zack. This motion was

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I wish you all the best. I still support Green policies, but the toxicity I've seen and experienced has left a sour taste in my mouth. Hopefully, things may change.

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I got so much abuse on here for criticising the motion. People telling me I must be okay with the Genocide if I didn't support the motion. I was so disappointed and angry. I may join again in the future, but for now, I just can't be a member, unfortunately.

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I cancelled my membership because of this motion. I am appalled it was allowed to be voted on. I want to see an end to the genocide and I want peace and freedom for all Palestinians, but this motion will do nothing to deliver it. It has only damaged the Green Party, and I am gutted about that.

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I know some morons will think I don't oppose get genocide, but that is wrong. I just don't see how damaging the Green party stops the genocide or helps Palestinians.

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To all the people who disagree with my position, can anyone name a tangible improvement that has occurred due to this motion passing? The Greens are condemned by allies and opponents alike, and are under police investigation. I really don't see those as positive achievements.

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My decision is based on the actions of morons. People so stupid, they think passing a motion that eradicates the state of Israel is a good idea. This doesn't help Palestinian people. The Green party has been condemned by European Green parties, and has been reported to the police. Well fucking done

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It's not about knowing their minds. They literally did that. In an election week they decided to pass a motion that has generated the worst press I have ever seen for the Green party. The motion achived nothing except to damage the party. That cannot be denied.

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No, Glyn, it's the self destructive gesture politics. Also, I'm pretty sure I know my own mind and opinions better than you, but sure, why not assume you know me better than I know myself. I'm sure that won't make you look stupid.

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I do understand, though. They will sacrifice real political power and opportunity, for gesture politics.

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George Monbiot @georgemonbiot.bsky.social · 06/10/2026

The synopsis of the motion says the old borders of Palestine are to be recognised and there should be just one state, called Palestine. That means the eradication of Israel. That is why this is a stupid, antisemitic motion, and anyone voting for it is an idiot.

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For the sake of a slogan achieving nothing except great concern and distress to British Jews, Green members have probably destroyed any hope that a party - their party - which consistently and clearly opposes the #genocide will join the next government. Genius. 🤦‍♂️ www.theguardian.com/politics/202...

theguardian.com

Labour figures rule out working with Greens after ‘Zionism is racism’ vote

Minister says they could not see parties cooperating, while official says coalition should be formally ruled out

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I have read the motion. I have also seen all the negative press it has created. I've also seen nothing positive that has happened because of this motion. This was a piss poor motion that has damaged the Green Party and given it's opponents a huge stick to beat them with.

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No, genius, I'm not okay with genocide. Also, I'm not okay with a party that prefers gesture politics to actual politics. I want Zack to be an MP and putting pressure on the govt to stop the genocide. I want actual solutions, not a motion that literally does nothing but damage the Green party.

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George Monbiot @georgemonbiot.bsky.social · 07/10/2026

No, instead they voted on a motion that calls for the eradication of the state of Israel. That's the problem, and the fact so many peole refuse to acknowledge that problem is infuriating.

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Let me try this once more. It was a choice. EITHER the Greens adopted a slogan. OR they could have joined the next govt, where they could push for an end to arms sales, sanctions, support for the arrest warrants etc. It was never going to be both. Which one makes a material difference? #GazaGenocide

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Elected. People chose performative politics over actual politics. They also chose to offer a solution that will never ever happen. This was a stupid gesture that has seriously damaged the reputation of the Greens. I can't be a member of a party that is this self destructive.

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Nick @nickjg50.bsky.social · 06/10/2026

I cancelled my membership to the Green Party. The Zionism is racism motion was an act of stupidity. By calling for the end of Israel, it paints the Greens as antisemitic. The motion also achieves nothing. The people of Gaza and West Bank are still suffering. It also makes it harder for Zack to get

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This does not help the Palestinian people. The Zionism is racism.motion was a stupid stunt that has damaged the Green party and helped no one. God knows what damage this has done to Zack and his election campaign. www.theguardian.com/politics/202...

theguardian.com

Green party of England and Wales facing international ostracism over ‘Zionism is racism’ vote

European Green party says motion goes against its policy, with German Green co-leader calling it ‘intolerable and unacceptable’

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Prem Sikka @premnsikka.bsky.social · 05/10/2026

Energy suppliers urge UK govt to help households struggling with energy bills. Silence on cutting profit margins, windfall taxes on excessive profits. Household energy debt heading to £7bn. 120,000 a year die in fuel poverty. We can't afford privatisation and resulting profiteering.

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Suppliers pile pressure on government over energy bills

Immediate action is needed to help households struggling with bills this winter, says trade body Energy UK.

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I always thought states were considered as more than just the govt of a state, but looking at the definition, I think you are correct. So yes, states can be racist.

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But this motion doesn't stop the bombing, or the genocide, or the torture. It is still happening. The motion achieves nothing. Having Zack in Parliament standing up for Palestinians would achive more than this motion does, but now winning the by-election is looks more difficult.

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Are you saying you know best instead? My argument is simple. The motion is antisemitic, and it damaged the Green Party. If that is what you want, then congratulations on a fantastic achievement. Personally, I would rather discuss real solutions to end the genocide instead of gesture politics.

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I would also add that not eveyone on Israel supports what is happening or the Israeli government. Many jews have openly portested against the genocide. I don't want to call any state racist as states cannot be racist, but people can. I think that is an important distinction.

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I am stating fact. We have just passed a motion that is by definition antisemitic. We have done this a few days befire a by-election. Winning the by-election does more to help Palestinians than a motion that is nothing more than gesture politics. This motion achieves nothing other than to damage us

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No I don't, but I don't have enough characters to list everyone I despise so I figure'd I'd narrow it down.

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This motion achieves nothing. It does not make the lives of Palestinians better. This motion does make it harder for Zack to get elected. That is one less voice in parliament calling for an end to genocide. The reality is this is a damaging motion that calls for something that will never happen.

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I'm not denying that. But calling for the eradication of Israel is antisemitic. We have just shot ourselves in the foot days before a by-election. The people of Gaza would be better off with Zack in Parliament arguing for a ban on weapon sales, but that might not happen now.

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In order for there to be a single state, Israel must cease to exist. That is antisemitic. Regardless of the noble intentions of the motion, it is antisemic by definition. We have just damaged Zack's chances of election so we can pass a motion that does nothing except paint us as antisemitic. Why?

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No Ivor, it is antisemitic to call for the eradication of Israel. That is just a fact. I hate what is happening in Gaza and the West Bank. I despise Netenyahu. But that doesn't change the fact that calling for the eradication of Israel is antisemitic.

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Of course it is antisemitic. It calls for the creation of a single Palestinian state. Therfore, it is calling for the eradication of Israel is antisemitic. This is gesture politics at a time when we should be doing real politics and getting Zack elected, which has now become much harder.

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