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@nathan.butnotdetroit.com
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He/Him. Physics PhD. Patent agent. Bibliophile. Utahn. Negotiating with religion and history. I mostly post (and occasionally vent) about US politics, Utah politics, Mormonism, and occasionally patent law. Profile pic by @mae-bee-cringe.bsky.social

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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 30/01/2026
To be jerrified would be jerrific
Reply by Jerry to one of my commentsJerry being correctly identified as "and 1 other" in liking 2 of my comments.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 26/11/2025
This is from the 2010 Handbook 1 and, indeed, it was previously just Melchizedek priesthood holders that would merit a stake disciplinary council.
6.2.1 Stake President
The stake president has authority over Check discipline in the stake. However, bishops normally administer Check discipline unless evidence indicates that a man who holds the Melchizedek... (continued from first screenshot) 
Priesthood is likely to be excommunicated. In that case, the stake president convenes a stake disciplinary council.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 17/11/2025
SHE'S NARRATING THE AUDIOBOOK HERSELF.
Screenshot of American Canto on libro.fm. The page notes that the audiobook is "Read by the author."
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 14/10/2025
With inputs like this, what could go wrong?
Male writers writing female characters:
"Cassandra woke up to the rays of the sun streaming through the slats on her blinds, cascading over her naked chest. She stretched, her breasts lifting with her arms as she greeted the sun. She rolled out of bed and put on a shirt, her nipples prominently showing through the thin fabric. She breasted boobily to the stairs, and titted downwards."
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 09/08/2025
Whoever wrote the contract document is clearly a Tesla fanboy, though. "We need to test our missiles on them because CTs are so tough and resilient, the enemy will surely start using them." Plus the completely unnecessary complimenting of its unique design.🙄
“In the operating theatre it is likely the type of vehicle used by the enemy may transition to Tesla Cybertrucks as they have been found not to receive the normal extent of damage expected upon major impact,” a partially redacted contract document reads.

Government documents also note the truck’s “aggressively angular and futuristic design, paired with its unpainted stainless steel exoskeleton, sets it apart from competitors typically using painted steel and aluminum body.” 

Many Cybertrucks on the road are painted, but it is unclear how specifically that design would be much different than a Toyota Hilux or a kei truck against a Hellfire missile.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 13/07/2025
With this jacket color, it really hit me how much Kristi Noem looks like Demi and Jessi from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
Kristi Noem, wearing a blue jacket similar to those worn by the cast of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives in the season 1 intro. Jessi from Secret Lives Demi from Secret Lives Shot from the intro to season 1 of Secret Lives, in which the cast wear blue jackets similar to that worn by Kristi Noem.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 18/05/2025
I got the chance to meet @maklelan.bsky.social this week at a book signing in SLC with King's English Bookshop. Great Q&A, tons of folks there. If you haven't, I recommend you check out his book THE BIBLE SAYS SO: bookshop.org/p/books/the-...
Noted Bible scholar Dan McClellan shaking hands with some rando in a church.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 12/04/2025
I wrote my Utah state senator, Jerry Stevenson, asking what the state lege plans to do if the federal Dept of Education is shuttered and federal funding is cut off. Below is my question, helpfully bolded, and his response. I wouldn't call it an "answer".
My question for you, as my state senator: What is the state legislature's plan to fulfill its constitutional mandate to "provide for the establishment and maintenance of the state's education systems" (Utah Constitution, Article X, Section 1), in light of changes at the federal level? If federal funding is reduced or cut off, does the legislature intend to revise the state budget to make up for that shortfall, or will public schools be forced to do more with less?Jerry Stevenson 
to me
We could do so much more for schools in Utah with what we pay Washington to  launder our money for us.   I think we are headed down a better path without the Federal Department of Education
Sent from my iPhone
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 09/04/2025
Thank you for sharing, fellow fan! I'm glad I didn't miss out on this campaign. I'm excited to rearrange my shelves to make space!
Jenn Lyons book collection on a shelf
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 28/03/2025
Looking forward to the capitalist future in which you need to have a Security Premium™ subscription to get through in less than 3 hrs and there's an upcharge to get inspected by the cute bomb sniffing dogs. www.deseret.com/politics/202...
WASHINGTON — Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, is renewing efforts to fully eliminate the Transportation Security Administration, accusing the federal agency of inefficiency and invading travelers’ privacy.

Lee, along with Sen. Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala., introduced the Abolish the TSA Act on Thursday, which would dissolve the TSA and establish a separate Office of Aviation Security Oversight to manage airport security. The office would operate completely under the Federal Aviation Administration and transfer security activities and equipment to private companies instead.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 26/03/2025
I know it's terrifying for current Rs to consider *shudder* remote meetings, or even *banshee wail* proxy voting, but it could help if the lege worked from a home office. Obligatory Susie pic:
Comic strip panel with Susie Derkins from Calvin and Hobbes. With her eyes trained heavenward, she says, "... And as long as I'm dreaming, I'd like a pony."
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 24/03/2025
4. Unfortunately, the church will almost certainly miss someone. A victim will sue, alleging negligence as described under the penalty section. The first time it happens, a special session will be called to amend this law in some way to protect the church from further suits.
80-8-203.  Penalty.
(1)	Beginning May 1, 2025, in any lawsuit against a youth service organization arising out of the molestation or sexual abuse of a child committed by a youth worker against a child who was in the custody or care of the youth service organization, the youth service organization shall be considered negligent if:
(a)	
(i)	the youth service organization failed to conduct a registered sex offender check for the youth worker who committed the molestation or sexual abuse; and
(ii)	a registered sex offender check for the youth worker would have revealed that the youth worker was registered on the state's Sex and Kidnap Offender Registry or the National Sex Offender Public Website; or
(b)	
(i)	the youth service organization conducted a registered sex offender check for the youth worker who committed the molestation or sexual abuse;
(ii)	the registered sex offender check revealed that the youth worker was registered on the state's Sex and Kidnap Offender Registry or the National Sex Offender Public Website; and
(iii)	the youth service organization nevertheless employed the youth worker or allowed the youth worker to volunteer.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 24/03/2025
Some thoughts: 1. This law was passed a year ago. Why did they wait until now to come into compliance, if they truly cared and supported it? If I were a clerk, I'd be bugged they gave me 6 weeks' notice when I could have had a year to do this.
Index	Utah Code
Title 80	Utah Juvenile Code
Chapter 8	Youth Service Organizations
Part 2	Requirements and Penalties
Section 201	Youth protection requirements. (Effective 5/1/2025)

Effective 5/1/2025
80-8-201.  Youth protection requirements.
(1)	A youth service organization may not employ a youth worker or allow an individual to volunteer as a youth worker unless the youth service organization has completed a registered sex offender check for the individual.
(2)	A youth services organization shall require a potential youth worker to provide the individual's full name and a current, government-issued identification to facilitate the registered sex offender check required by Subsection (1).
(3)	If an individual is registered on the state's Sex and Kidnap Offender Registry or the National Sex Offender Public Website, a youth service organization may not employ the individual as a youth worker or allow the individual to volunteer as a youth worker.

Enacted by Chapter 371, 2024 General Session
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 24/03/2025
I'm surprised they didn't hyperlink it, but it's there. Just one reference to it, though.
Wikipedia Page for Alma the Elder. First sentence reads, "Alma is a Nephite prophet in the Book of Mormon."
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 23/03/2025
Ward Radio is the physical manifestation of the folks on the right side of this pic
Musician on the left worries no one will listen to them. Podcasters on the right just talk about nothing for hours.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 28/02/2025
In looking up how the law defines "refusal skills", I came across these bits from le.utah.gov/xcode/Title5... So sex ed in Utah can mention that contraception exists, but not advocate or encourage its use. And if this bill passes, no discussion of human sexuality will be permitted.
(b)	"Refusal skills" means instruction:
(i)	in a student's ability to clearly and expressly refuse sexual advances by a minor or adult;
(ii)	in a student's obligation to stop the student's sexual advances if refused by another individual;
(iii)	informing a student of the student's right to report and seek counseling for unwanted sexual advances;
(iv)	in sexual harassment; and
(v)	informing a student that a student may not consent to criminally prohibited activities or activities for which the student is legally prohibited from giving consent, including the electronic transmission of sexually explicit images by an individual of the individual or another.(2)	
(a)	The state board shall establish curriculum requirements under Section 53E-3-501 that include instruction in:
(i)	community and personal health;
(ii)	physiology;
(iii)	personal hygiene;
(iv)	prevention of communicable disease;
(v)	refusal skills; and
(vi)	the harmful effects of pornography.(b)	In accordance with Title 63G, Chapter 3, Utah Administrative Rulemaking Act, the state board shall make rules that, and instruction shall:
(i)	stress the importance of abstinence from all sexual activity before marriage and fidelity after marriage as methods for preventing certain communicable diseases;
(ii)	stress personal skills that encourage individual choice of abstinence and fidelity;
(iii)	prohibit instruction in:
(A)	the intricacies of intercourse, sexual stimulation, or erotic behavior;
(B)	the advocacy of premarital or extramarital sexual activity; or
(C)	the advocacy or encouragement of the use of contraceptive methods or devices; and
(iv)	except as provided in Subsection (2)(d), allow instruction to include information about contraceptive methods or devices that stresses effectiveness, limitations, risks, and information on state law applicable to minors obtaining contraceptive methods or devices.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 25/02/2025
New profile pic done by the amazing @mae-bee-cringe.bsky.social! Check out their great work!
Nathan Detroit profile pic commission done by @mae-bee-cringe.bsky.social.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 20/02/2025
Hi Daniel. THANK YOU for including the links to the court documents in your story. This is much rarer than it should be in news stories. I did have trouble finding the link to the latest filing. It's confusingly at the red underline in this screenshot.
It also claimed that Section 504 – which prohibits discrimination based on disability – is unconstitutional and asked a judge to declare that.

But not anymore.

“Nothing in Plaintiffs’ Complaint seeks to restrain the disbursement of federal funds from the Department (of Health and Human Services) on the basis that the statute is unconstitutional, or to otherwise prevent the Federal Government from allocating spending or applying the provisions of the Rehabilitation Act to any recipients of such funds,” the AGs wrote in the latest court filing.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 15/02/2025
That my state senator would have the gall to include this in his weekly newsletter the same day the state banned collective bargaining for teachers is completely shameless. #utpol
But while legislation is a vital part of the equation, it’s the people of Utah who truly make our state shine. From teachers to healthcare workers, business owners to homemakers—every decision we make in this chamber is driven by the desire to improve the lives of those who call Utah home.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 10/02/2025
Maybe I'm doing a step wrong, but I don't see a button to DM.
No DM button showing on profile
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 05/02/2025
I got my scam email today!
Scam email asking me to contribute to BYU oral history project
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 23/01/2025
The old law had an additional trigger requirement that 4 western states (including WA!) had to pass similar laws before it became effective. Because this section would be repealed by the new law, that trigger would no longer be required to switch from standard to daylight time.
Be it enacted by the Legislature of the state of Utah:
24          Section 1. Section 63G-1-901 is enacted to read:
25          63G-1-901. Year-round daylight saving time.
26          (1) As used in this section:
27          (a) "Mountain daylight time" means the period during a year when mountain standard
28     time is advanced one hour in accordance with 15 U.S.C. Sec. 260a.
29          (b) "Mountain standard time" means the observed time assigned to the mountain time
30     zone in 15 U.S.C. Sec. 261.
31          (2) Utah exempts all areas of the state from standard time.
32          (3) The year-round observed time of the entire state and all of the state's political
33     subdivisions is mountain daylight time.
34          Section 2. Contingent effective date.
35          (1) As used in this section, "western state" means Arizona, California, Colorado, Idaho,
36     Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah, Washington, or Wyoming.
37          (2) This bill takes effect on the first Sunday of November following the day on which
38     both of the following have occurred:
39          (a) legislation, enacted by Congress, goes into effect to amend 15 U.S.C. Sec. 260a to
40     authorize states to observe daylight saving time year-round; and
41          (b) at least four western states, other than Utah, pass legislation to place all or a portion
42     of those states on year-round daylight time, regardless of the time zone.
43          (3) The lieutenant governor shall inform the legislative general counsel in writing of
44     the date this bill takes effect in accordance with this section.Part
9. Utah Time
63G-1-902. Definitions.
(1)As used in this section:
(a)"Mountain daylight time" means a time that is one hour later than mountain standard
time.
(b)"Mountain standard time" means the observed time assigned to the mountain time
zone in 15 U.S.C. Sec. 261.
(2)Except as provided in Subsection (3), beginning on January 1, 2026, Utah:
(a)is exempt from the provisions of 15 U.S.C. Sec. 260a that provide for the
advancement of time by one hour; and
(b)will observe mountain standard time at all times of the year.
(3)If federal law is changed to permit Utah to observe mountain daylight time at all times
of the year, Utah will, beginning at 2 a.m. on January 1 after the change to federal law
takes effect, observe mountain daylight time at all times of the year.

Section 2, Repealer.
This bill repeals:

Section 63G-1-901, Year-round daylight saving time.

Section 3. Effective date.
This bill takes effect on May 7, 2025.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 23/01/2025
Utah already has a similar trigger law to permanently adopt daylight time, passed 2020. This bill maintains that trigger, just puts us on permanent standard time until then.
Introduced
H.B. 120
Time Change Amendments
2025 GENERAL SESSION
STATE OF UTAH
Chief Sponsor: Joseph Elison

LONG TITLE
General Description:
This bill amends provisions relating to the time observed in Utah.
Highlighted Provisions:
This bill:
▸defines terms; and
▸provides that Utah will observe mountain standard time year-round until federal law
allows Utah to observe mountain daylight time year-round, after which Utah will
observe mountain daylight time year-round.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 21/01/2025
They also didn't send anyone to Biden's inauguration. The reason given was covid, per the Tribune. I have no reason to doubt that, but I also believe Nelson is all in on MAGA, based on the fawning welcome he gave Trump in 2018. www.sltrib.com/news/politic...
Nelson relayed to the Republican chief executive that last week he was in China, where the LDS apostle heard talk about what “a wonderful job President Trump had done.”

Trump returned the compliment, calling Nelson a “great heart surgeon; one of the best in the world.”

“He [Nelson] decided to help even more people,” Trump noted, by giving up a distinguished medical career to become a global religious leader.

Nelson, 93, is next in line to lead the nearly 16 million-member Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 11/01/2025
3. Let's look at NCPPR's proposal. The supporting statement is nearly identical to what they submitted to Costco, with the numbers in the final paragraph updated based on Apple's employee numbers. I'm guessing NCPPR submitted a similar proposal to a bunch of different public companies. 🧵/4
Proposal No. 6
Shareholder Proposal
Apple has been advised that the National Center for Public Policy Research intends to submit the following proposal at the Annual
Meeting.

Request to Cease DEI Efforts

SUPPORTING STATEMENT:
Last year, the US Supreme Court ruled in SFFA v. Harvard that discriminating on the basis of race in college admissions violates the
equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment. As a result, the legality of corporate Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) programs was called into question and 13 Attorneys General warned that SFFA implicated corporate DEI programs.

This year, those implications widened when the Supreme Court ruled in Muldrow v. City of St. Louis that Title VII of the Civil Rights
Act protected against discriminatory job transfers. The ruling also lowered the bar for employees to successfully sue their
employers for discrimination, and is therefore likely to lead to an increase in discrimination claims.

Since SFFA, a number of DEI-related lawsuits have been filed. Starbucks was successfully sued for discrimination by an employee for
25.6 million, and the risk of being sued for such discrimination is rising.

Sensibly, many major companies have responded by rolling back their DEI commitments and laying off DEI departments. Alphabet and Meta cut DEI staff and DEI-related investments; and Microsoft and Zoom laid off their entire DEI teams. Since Muldrow, John Deere publicly halted DEI-related policies after Tractor Supply explicitly stated that it “eliminate[d] DEI roles and retire[d] our current DEI goals;” Lowe’s and Ford ended their participation in the Human Rights Campaign’s Corporate Equality (CEI); Harley Davidson ceased its DEI efforts; and Jack Daniels ended both its DEI efforts and CEI participation.It's clear that DEI poses litigation, reputational and financial risks to companies, and therefore financial risks to their shareholders, and therefore further risks to companies for not abiding by their fiduciary duties.

Despite these obvious risks, the SFFA and Muldrow decisions and the wave of corporate DEI retreats, Apple still has an “Inclusion &
Diversity” program. (Merely omitting “equity” from the title is meaningless as the program still expresses multiple explicit commitments to “equity,” and it’s stated policies are consistent with, if not more radical than, most corporate DEI programs.) Apple’s program includes: a “Supplier Diversity Program” that picks suppliers based on their race and sex; considering and valuing race and sex in hiring and promotion decisions; employing a “VP of Inclusion & Diversity;” employee member groups for some groups (those arbitrarily deemed “diverse”), but not for others; and contributing shareholder money to organizations that advance
DEI.

With 80,000 employees, Apple likely has over 50,000 who are potentially victims of this type of discrimination. If even only a
fraction of employees file suit, and only some of those prove successful, the cost to Apple could reach tens of billions of dollars.

RESOLVED:
Shareholders request that the Company consider abolishing its Inclusion & Diversity program, policies, department and goals.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 11/01/2025
Indeed, on page 75, we see that Apple recommends against ALL the shareholder proposals. This includes proposals for reports on "Ethical AI Data Acquisition and Usage", "Costs and Benefits of Child Sex Abuse Material-Identifying Software &User Privacy", and "Charitable Giving" 🧵/3
Shareholder proposal 
Board Voting Recommendation
Rationale 

4 
AGAINST 
Report on Ethical AI Data Acquisition and Usage

5 
AGAINST 
Report on Costs and Benefits of Child Sex Abuse Material-Identifying Software &User Privacy

6 
AGAINST 
Request to Cease DEI Efforts

7 
AGAINST 
Report on Charitable Giving
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 06/01/2025
On a lighter note: as a Midwesterner, @pfstack.bsky.social will likely get letters about this one.
Quote from the trib article: "Dotson ended up securing a tenured faculty position at Ohio State University."

The official name is "The Ohio State University", which alumni and fans insist on to an annoying degree.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 06/01/2025
This isn't surprising, but it's still sad. If no one is willing to go on the record, you're not creating a welcoming environment, BYU!
Today, the threat of retribution apparently is so real that after dozens of interviews with present and former BYU faculty and administrators across many disciplines, not one current professor (including those with tenure, known as “continuing status”) would go on the record for this story.

“Low morale is pretty universal,” said a veteran teacher. “The default position is not to trust anybody.”
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 06/01/2025
This article (not online yet, published in the print edition today) is so depressing as a BYU alum. As one of those interviewed noted, BYU really is becoming Liberty University.
DARK DAYS: Why so many BYU professors fear for their jobs, their future
They see new employment rules taking the LDS Church’s premier school back to a painful era.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 03/01/2025
Another article that gets it wrong, or at least misleadingly incomplete: www.fastcompany.com/91253805/cal...
Last week, the company urged shareholders to reject a proposal from the National Center for Public Policy Research, which describes itself as a “conservative think tank.” The proposal called for an end to Costco’s DEI programs, arguing that such initiatives are discriminatory.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 03/01/2025
Complete Work and the Glory hardcover set on bookshelf Side note: the different spacing on the spine of book 3 irks me every time I see it.
Books 1-9 of The Work and the Glory. 
Book 1 (red): Pillar of Light
Book 2 (blue): Like a Fire is Burning
Book 3 (dark green): Truth Will Prevail
Book 4 (purple) Thy Gold to Refine
Book 5 (maroon): A Season of Joy
Book 6 (black): Praise to the Man
Book 7 (turquoise): No Unhallowed Hand
Book 8 (navy): So Great a Cause
Book 9 (gold): All is Well
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 02/01/2025
I also like the board's response on p. 33 calling out the bad faith of "the proponent" (National Center for Public Policy Research)
The proponent professes concern about legal and financial risks to the Company and its shareholders associated with the diversity initiatives.
The supporting statement demonstrates that it is the proponent and others that are responsible for inflicting burdens on companies with their
challenges to longstanding diversity programs. The proponent's broader agenda is not reducing risk for the Company but abolition of diversity
initiatives. A 2023 federal district court decision, in a case brought by the proponent, noted that the proponent had "published a document called
'Balancing the Boardroom 2022,' which describes its shareholder activism as 'fighting back' against 'the evils of woke politicized capital and
companies.' [The proponent went] on to describe 'CEOs and other corporate executives who are most woke and most hard-left political in their
management of their corporations' as 'inimical to the Republic and its blessings of liberty' and 'committed to critical race theory and the socialist
foundations of woke' or 'shameless monsters who are willing to sacrifice our future for their comforts.'" National Center for Public Policy
Research v. Schultz, E.D. WA. (Sept. 11, 2023). And the proponent's efforts to demonstrate retrenchment on the part of companies are
misleading, at best. For example, the assertion that "Microsoft laid off an entire a [sic] DEI team" is simply wrong. It was later reported that
Microsoft stated that the two positions eliminated were redundant roles on its events team and that Microsoft’s diversity and inclusion
commitments remain unchanged, according to Jeff Jones, a Microsoft spokesperson: “Our focus on diversity and inclusion is unwavering and we
are holding firm on our expectations, prioritizing accountability, and continuing to focus on this work.” Colvin, Caroline. Amid DEI cuts, Microsoft
works to distinguish itself from those responding to ‘woke’ backlash. HR Dive, July 24, 2024.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 01/01/2025
@aprilajoy.bsky.social Happy New Year! After hearing your episode of DOD with the Dans, I got your book on Sunday and finished it this morning. I appreciate your personal stories, and your sincerity shines through. (Favorite excerpt is below)
I had been so consumed with the culture wars of putting Christ back in schools, back in the country, and back in Christmas that I hadn’t even noticed he needed to be put back in *Christianity*.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 16/12/2024
Deseret News should be ashamed for allowing this to be published on their site. Fearmongering based on deliberate lies is not journalism. The legislators who wrote this filth should be ashamed, too, but anyone willing to put their name next to Trevor Lee's clearly gave up on shame long ago.
Manually validating signatures on both candidate petitions and VBM ballots relies upon fallible human judgement, and does so at huge and unnecessary cost. Signature verification and VBM both created problems this past cycle. In one case, a major candidate may — we emphasize may — have improperly advanced to the Republican primary for governor.
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Dr Nathan @nathan.butnotdetroit.com · 10/12/2024
Oh hey, look at that language excusing abuse. "Sure, other parents are bad, but not me! I'm the one being persecuted!"
“Cancel culture” Hudson laments, seems to have worked its way “into the heart of the family.” Although there are clearly “abusive, destructive, shaming, humiliating parents,” author Joshua Coleman writes, “those aren’t the only parents that are getting estranged today. There are perfectly good, loving parents and grandparents who are getting cut off.”
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