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IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800

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Newly on 🦋! A long standing seminar at @ihr.bsky.social. We’re interested in all perspectives on the society, culture and belief of the early modern period. www.history.ac.uk/seminars/society-…

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IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 09/10/2026

Just a reminder – if you are a PhD student or know a PhD student who would like to give a talk at our seminar Lightning Talks on 12 November, do encourage them to get in touch!

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IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 11/09/2026

We're on the lookout for some PhD students who would like to give a Lightning Talk at our seminar on 12 November! Open to early modernists working on any geography, talks are 3-5 minutes! Get in touch via BlueSky or email tmt29@cam.ac.uk with a short summary of PhD and bio by 12 October! ✨🥳

Poster on Lightning talks:

PhD Lightning Talks: Society, Culture, and Belief Seminar, 1500-1800, Institute of Historical Research. Deadline: 12 October, Event: Thursday 12 November, 5.30 pm

The Society, Culture, and Belief Seminar is inviting applications for lightning talks from PhD students on their research. We ask that these talks be 3-5 minutes. This is a fantastic opportunity to talk through your research with a broader audience of fellow students and more seasoned academics, as well as test out some ideas in a comfortable and welcoming environment. The talks will be followed by a brief Q&A session.

The seminar was founded in 1979, hosting papers on themes ranging from witchcraft and piracy to early modern medicine and urban religious practices. We look to create an open and welcoming atmosphere and are always excited to hear a broad range of papers and geographies.

The event will take place on Thursday 12 November 2026, from 5.30 pm onwards. For those presenting in-person, we typically continue the conversation after the seminar over drinks or dinner. We’re open to applications from students working on any geographical region between 1500-1800.

If you would like to participate, please email: tmt29@cam.ac.uk by 12 October 2026 with a 300-word thesis summary and a brief bio. If you would like to attend the seminar, do keep an eye out on our webpage (very soon to be updated with our events for this term) or you can always follow us on Bluesky @ihrscb.bsky.social. We tend to meet on Thursdays during term time at 5.30 pm — all are welcome!

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 27/09/2026

A reminder that our first event of term is happening THIS Thursday - October 1 at 5.30 pm ! Rosamund Oates will be speaking on 'Deafness in Early Modern England' - the link is finally up for people to sign-up 🥳 in-person (NB02, IHR) and online www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

Silent Histories: Deafness in Early Modern England

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 21/09/2026

Our first event of term is on Thursday 1 October at 5.30 pm! @rosamundoates.bsky.social will be speaking on ‘Silent Histories: Deafness in Early Modern England’! Watch this space: www.history.ac.uk/news-events/... full programme will be up soon and you'll be able to sign up for in-person or online!

Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800

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IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 11/09/2026

We're on the lookout for some PhD students who would like to give a Lightning Talk at our seminar on 12 November! Open to early modernists working on any geography, talks are 3-5 minutes! Get in touch via BlueSky or email tmt29@cam.ac.uk with a short summary of PhD and bio by 12 October! ✨🥳

Poster on Lightning talks:

PhD Lightning Talks: Society, Culture, and Belief Seminar, 1500-1800, Institute of Historical Research. Deadline: 12 October, Event: Thursday 12 November, 5.30 pm

The Society, Culture, and Belief Seminar is inviting applications for lightning talks from PhD students on their research. We ask that these talks be 3-5 minutes. This is a fantastic opportunity to talk through your research with a broader audience of fellow students and more seasoned academics, as well as test out some ideas in a comfortable and welcoming environment. The talks will be followed by a brief Q&A session.

The seminar was founded in 1979, hosting papers on themes ranging from witchcraft and piracy to early modern medicine and urban religious practices. We look to create an open and welcoming atmosphere and are always excited to hear a broad range of papers and geographies.

The event will take place on Thursday 12 November 2026, from 5.30 pm onwards. For those presenting in-person, we typically continue the conversation after the seminar over drinks or dinner. We’re open to applications from students working on any geographical region between 1500-1800.

If you would like to participate, please email: tmt29@cam.ac.uk by 12 October 2026 with a 300-word thesis summary and a brief bio. If you would like to attend the seminar, do keep an eye out on our webpage (very soon to be updated with our events for this term) or you can always follow us on Bluesky @ihrscb.bsky.social. We tend to meet on Thursdays during term time at 5.30 pm — all are welcome!

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 04/06/2026

Sketchbooks, account books, signatures, and recipes... join us TODAY (5.30 pm) for our last event of term as Melissa Calaresu (Cambridge) discusses writing the life of the painter Thomas Jones across London, Rome, and Naples. In-person only, Room NB02 at the IHR: www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 26/05/2026

Using sketchbooks, account books, and recipes, Melissa Calaresu (Cambridge) will discuss some of the methodological problems of piecing together the life of Jones and his family from the numbers, images, and words which have survived. The event is in-person only (IHR Wolfson Room NB02). All welcome!

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 26/05/2026

Our next and final event of this academic year is on Thursday 4 June! Melissa Calaresu will be giving the following paper ‘Painting by Numbers: Writing the Life of Thomas Jones (1744-1803)’. Thomas Jones was known for his strikingly exact portrayals of urban Naples: www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

Urban oil-paint image of 18th century Naples, painted with striking degrees of realism in the details and shadings. On the right hand side is a tall building of at least four stories, of pale stone, on the left is a much shorter building, also of pale stone with grey-blue shutters. On the left hand corner are some trees and foliage.

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 21/05/2026

Just a reminder that Erin Maglaque @erinmaglaque.bsky.social is speaking TODAY at 5.30 pm! For those of you who have missed registration, do feel free to just turn up (we can always find more chairs!) or send us a direct message for a Zoom link on bluesky or at ihrscbmail@gmail.com! ✨📚

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Brodie Waddell @brodiewaddell.bsky.social · 19/05/2026

Come along on to the @ihr.bsky.social on Thursday to hear from @erinmaglaque.bsky.social, whose new book *Presence: A Hidden History of the Female Body* is coming out with Penguin next month!

Cover of Presence: A Hidden History of the Female Body, and a photo of Erin Maglaque

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 18/05/2026

A reminder that our next event is THIS THURSDAY (21 May) at 5.30 pm. Erin Maglaque @erinmaglaque.bsky.social will be speaking on '"A zeal without limits": the postmortem caesarian section in early modern Italy'! ✨ You can sign up here (in-person in room 243 & Zoom): www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

A zeal without limits

Society, Culture and Belief 1500-1800 Seminar

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 07/05/2026

Join us in an hour at 5.30 pm (not 5 pm, as a previous post suggested) today! ✨ Laura Sangha will be talking on 'The Material Culture of Wills, England 1540-1790', both online and in-person at the IHR www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

The Material Culture of Wills, England 1540-1790

Society, Culture & Belief 1500-1800 Seminar

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 07/05/2026

...a data sample of 30,000 English wills?! 👀 📚 A reminder that Laura Sangha @lsangha.bsky.social will be speaking TODAY, Thursday 7 May, 5 pm, on 'The Material Culture of Wills, England 1540-1790'! Sign up here to attend in person or online: www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

The Material Culture of Wills, England 1540-1790

Society, Culture & Belief 1500-1800 Seminar

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 13/05/2026

We're back for a new term! ✨📚 Laura Sangha @lsangha.bsky.social will be speaking next Thursday, 7 May, on 'The Material Culture of Wills, England 1540-1790'. The event is both hybrid (via Zoom) and in Wolfson Room NB02 of the IHR... do sign-up here! www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

The Material Culture of Wills, England 1540-1790

Society, Culture & Belief 1500-1800 Seminar

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 04/03/2026

Just a reminder... Tomorrow, 5 March, 5.30 pm ✨ Sue Wiseman, Brodie Waddell @brodiewaddell.bsky.social , and Michael Powell Davies @mdpowelldavies.bsky.social speaking on "Written Worlds: Non-Elite Writers in Early Modern England" Sign-up in person & online: www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

Written Worlds: Non-Elite Writers in Early Modern England

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 26/02/2026

Our next event is happening next week! Sue Wiseman, Brodie Waddell @brodiewaddell.bsky.social and Michael Powell Davies will be discussing "Written Worlds: Non-Elite Writers in Early Modern England" ✒️📖✨ Sign-up here (in-person and online) Thursday 5 March, 5.30 pm www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

Written Worlds: Non-Elite Writers in Early Modern England

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 04/02/2026

Just a reminder ... tomorrow at 5.30 pm, Holly Fletcher (@drhollyfletcher.bsky.social) will be speaking on 'The Fats of Life in the Early Modern World, 1500-1750: Matter in Multispecies Medicine' ✨ Sign up at: www.history.ac.uk/news-events/... (In-person, IHR Wolfson Room NB02, all are welcome!)

The Fats of Life in the Early Modern World, 1500-1750: Matter in Multispecies Medicine

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 27/01/2026

The event will take place at 5.30 pm and is in-person – taking place in the IHR Wolfson Room NB02 (Senate House, Malet Street, London WC1E 7HU), later events this term are also online – sign up here ✨ www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

The Fats of Life in the Early Modern World, 1500-1750: Matter in Multispecies Medicine

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IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 26/01/2026

Our first event of this term is taking place very soon, on Thursday 5 February! Holly Fletcher (UCL) will be speaking on 'The Fats of Life in the Early Modern World, 1500-1750: Matter in Multispecies Medicine'. You can sign-up to attend in person and online here: www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

This provides an update on the two events coming up – the first, Holly Fletcher's 'The Fats of Life in the Early Modern World' (5 Feb, 5.30 pm, IHR Wolfson Room NB02 and online via Zoom), the second Brodie Waddell's 'Written Worlds: Non-Elite Writers in Early Modern England (5 March, IHR Wolfson Room NB02 and online via Zoom). The background image is a yellow-toned image by Bruegel of people working crops.

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 26/01/2026

Our first event of this term is taking place very soon, on Thursday 5 February! Holly Fletcher (UCL) will be speaking on 'The Fats of Life in the Early Modern World, 1500-1750: Matter in Multispecies Medicine'. You can sign-up to attend in person and online here: www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

This provides an update on the two events coming up – the first, Holly Fletcher's 'The Fats of Life in the Early Modern World' (5 Feb, 5.30 pm, IHR Wolfson Room NB02 and online via Zoom), the second Brodie Waddell's 'Written Worlds: Non-Elite Writers in Early Modern England (5 March, IHR Wolfson Room NB02 and online via Zoom). The background image is a yellow-toned image by Bruegel of people working crops.

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 27/11/2025

The talk will take place in the Wolfson Room NB02 at Senate House. For those coming to Senate House for the first time, we've attached a map that shows the two nearest stations – Russell Square and Goodge Street, we're only 1-2 stops away from Euston and King's Cross for anyone outside of town!

The image shows the location of Senate House in London (circled in red) in comparison to Goodge Street station and Russell Square station (both circled in blue). These are only a short walk away from Senate House.

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 27/11/2025

A reminder that our final event of term is happening tonight! Dr Nailya Shamgunova @nailyas.bsky.social will speak on 'English and Scottish Scholars at the Global Library, c. 1500-1700'. Sign up at: www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

English and Scottish Scholars at the Global Library, c. 1500-1700

This talk introduces the UKRI-funded Future Leaders project, The Global Library project.

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 24/11/2025

Our final event of term is happening this Thursday (27 November) Dr Nailya Shamgunova @nailyas.bsky.social on 'English and Scottish Scholars at the Global Library, c. 1500-1700'. ✨📚 This talk will be in-person only at the IHR. You can sign up here: www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

English and Scottish Scholars at the Global Library, c. 1500-1700

This talk introduces the UKRI-funded Future Leaders project, The Global Library project.

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 09/11/2025

Misha’s first monograph, The Virginia Venture: American Colonization and English Society, 1580-1660, was published in 2022. Her current research focuses on the role of women in the development of colonisation and racial slavery in seventeenth-century Barbados.

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 09/11/2025

After a PhD in History at UCL, she took up posts at the University of Kent and the University of Manchester, and was a Curator for Inclusive History at Historic Royal Palaces between 2021and 2022.

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 09/11/2025

Dr Misha Ewen ( @drmishaewen.bsky.social ) is Assistant Professor in American History at the University of Sussex. She works on histories of gender, slavery, and colonialism in the early modern Atlantic world.

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 09/11/2025

... Since there’s a bit of time between now and our next event, we thought we would introduce some of the new convenors who have joined us this year! 🥳 We’ll be introducing one a week until our next event. Dr Emily Vine spoke at our most recent seminar. We'd now like to introduce Dr Misha Ewen!

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 09/11/2025

Dr Misha Ewen (@drmishaewen.bsky.social) is Assistant Professor in American History at the University of Sussex. She works on histories of gender, slavery, and colonialism in the early modern Atlantic world.

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Lucy Hyde @lucyformaldehyde.bsky.social · 31/10/2025

Really excellent talk, Emily @emilymayvine.bsky.social , thoughtful and thought provoking, I learned so much! Thanks for sharing online IHR and allowing so many more people to engage with this great work.

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 30/10/2025

As ever, do register online to attend! (If you find yourself free at the last minute and want to join, please come anyway, as we can always find extra chairs ☺️)

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IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 30/10/2025

A quick reminder that Dr Emily Vine @emilymayvine.bsky.social will be speaking TODAY on 'Birth, Death and Domestic Religion in Early Modern London' from 5.30 pm to 7.30 pm in the Wolfson Room (NB02 at the IHR) and online, via Zoom! ✨ www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

Birth, Death and Domestic Religion in Early Modern London

Society, Culture and Belief, 1500-1800 Seminar- Session 2

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 23/10/2025

Prior to joining Exeter, Emily was a Research Fellow at the University of Birmingham and also at the University of Leeds. She held the 2018/19 Thornley Junior Fellowship at the IHR and completed her PhD at Queen Mary University of London. She was also a researcher for Horrible Histories!

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 23/10/2025

Emily will draw from her recently published monograph, on domestic religion and the life cycle in early modern London, to consider both Christian and Jewish practices, comparing the experiences of Catholics, Sephardi and Ashkenazi Jews, Huguenots, and conforming and nonconforming Protestants alike.

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 23/10/2025

We’re also thrilled to introduce Emily Vine as one of our new convenors at SCB! Emily is a Postdoctoral Research Fellow at Exeter on the Leverhulme Project 'The Material Culture of Wills, England 1540-1790’.

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 23/10/2025

Join us next Thursday (30/10, 5.30 pm) for Dr Emily Vine’s (@emilymayvine.bsky.social) talk on ‘Birth, Death and Domestic Religion in Early Modern London’! You can sign up to join in-person (IHR Wolfson Room, NB02) or online via Zoom here: www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

Birth, Death and Domestic Religion in Early Modern London

Society, Culture and Belief, 1500-1800 Seminar- Session 2

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Dr Jo Edge 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 @hagenilda.bsky.social · 16/10/2025

Lyndal Roper’s talk held this ADHD perimenopausal brain’s focus for a full 45 minutes this evening at @ihrscb.bsky.social! I cannot tell you what a feat that is. German peasants’ revolt, turbulence, Cranach, Dürer, and the lasting psychological effect of the uprising.

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 15/10/2025

If you’ve forgotten to sign-up or should the event read as fully booked, do just turn up anyway, as we can always find extra chairs!! ☺️

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IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 15/10/2025

If you would like to register for the event to attend in-person or via Zoom (and get a link), do sign-up here: www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

Turbulence and the German Peasants’ War of 1524-6

Society, Culture and Belief, 1500-1800 Seminar- Session 1

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 15/10/2025

Lyndal Roper’s talk will also be preceded by a brief session marking Michael Hunter’s retirement from active involvement with the seminar ✨

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 15/10/2025

We’ll be holding the event in room 243, on the Second Floor of Senate House, Malet Street, in London. For those who haven’t been before, this is how to get there: maps.app.goo.gl/7A4q39Mjo8tH... We also have an online option this year for those further afield!

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IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 15/10/2025

Just a final reminder that our first event of term is happening tomorrow at 5.30 pm! 🎉 Lyndal Roper will be speaking on ‘Turbulence and the German Peasants’ War of 1524-6’. All are welcome to join! www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

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IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 10/10/2025

Our first event is taking place next Thursday (16 October) at 5.30 pm. Lyndal Roper will be speaking on 'Turbulence and the German Peasants’ War of 1524-6’. You can join us in-person (Room 243, Senate House) or online – but do book a place here ✨ www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

Turbulence and the German Peasants’ War of 1524-6

Society, Culture and Belief, 1500-1800 Seminar- Session 1

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 25/09/2025

Thank you!! ☺️ If it helps at all, we're experimenting this year with some hybrid events, so all three of our events this term are also accessible via Zoom! (We appreciate that this doesn't solve any issues that might arise from time difference though.)

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IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 25/09/2025

We're back! 🎉 And we're thrilled to announce our term card for Autumn 2025! Our first event is on Thursday 16 October at 5.30 pm. Lyndal Roper will be discussing 'Turbulence and the German Peasants' War of 1524-6'. You can register to attend the event at: www.history.ac.uk/news-events/...

To attend, please register at the event of your choice here. If you have signed up but suddenly find yourself unable to make it, you can relinquish your spot by emailing: ihr.events@sas.ac.uk. If you would like to attend in-person and the event reads as fully booked, please do drop by anyway as we can always find some extra chairs!

Thursday 16 October, 5.30 pm to 7.30 pm
Lyndal Roper (University of Oxford), Turbulence and the German Peasants’ War of 1524-6
Please register here if you would like to attend.
Hybrid. Online-via Zoom & Room 243, Second Floor, Senate House

Thursday 30 October, 5.30 pm to 7.30 pm
Emily Vine (University of Exeter), Birth, Death and Domestic Religion in Early Modern London
Please register here if you would like to attend.
Hybrid | Online-via Zoom & IHR Wolfson Room NB02, Basement, IHR, Senate House

Thursday 27 November, 5.30 pm to 7.30 pm
Nailya Shamgunova (University of East Anglia), ‘English and Scottish Scholars at the Global Library, c. 1500-1700’
Please register here if you would like to attend.
Hybrid | Online-via Zoom & IHR Wolfson Room NB02, Basement, IHR, Senate House

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 25/07/2025

#EarlyModern history PhD students around London… We are looking for a postgrad convenor for 2025/26. The stipend is of £300/yr and it’s a chance to get involved in a really welcoming seminar!

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 17/06/2025

Our next event is this Thursday (19 June) in IHR Room N304 5.30-7.00 pm. We're thrilled that @willtullett.bsky.social will be speaking on ‘Animals and “Smellscapes" in Early Modern England’ ! Details and registration here (registrations are used to gauge numbers) www.history.ac.uk/events/anima...

Animals and “Smellscapes" in Early Modern England

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 21/05/2025

Our next event is tomorrow, Thursday 22 May, 5.30 - 7.00 pm. Tiéphaine Thomason (Cambridge) @teaphaine.bsky.social will speak on (French) speech in Martinique's streets 'Mobilising the Francophone Speechscape in Eighteenth-Century Urban Martinique' www.history.ac.uk/events/mobil...

Mobilising the Francophone Speechscape in Eighteenth-Century Urban Martinique

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 27/02/2025

If you're wondering...who could you trust in the seventeenth century? @nikkic.bsky.social will be speaking to us later today about the importance of personal news networks in the judgement of accuracy! Join us at 5.30 pm in room N304 (3rd floor, IHR, Senate House). All are welcome! #EarlyModern

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 22/02/2025

If you've ever wondered how #EarlyModern news consumers found and shared reliable information during plague and fire... 🔥 Come join us in just a few days (Thursday 27th) for a talk by Nicola Clarke @nikkic.bsky.social on seventeenth-century news and accuracy...! www.history.ac.uk/events/i-am-...

“I am told … but I know not of a certainty”: The value of accuracy in the multimedia world of news in England 1658-1685

IHR Society, Culture & Belief, 1500-1800 @ihrscb.bsky.social · 17/02/2025

If you know you're coming, please do register via the link in our original post. (It helps us gauge numbers.) If the booking form reads as fully booked, don't let this put you off and do feel free to turn up anyway – we can typically always find extra chairs!