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Hey, sorry for making you feel like you're being attacked I'll tone down the language next time

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Non public Superboy so it's cringe, but we take our dubs

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...to operate, as Superboy existing as his own entity in the public consicousness allows him to better gaslight for Clark Kent's sake

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I still think public is the right direction, especially in the modern day where independent child influencers are a big thing, and the social environment around openly queer kids is a little bit more accepting in America Plus stuff like SV shows that him going public would just make it easier...

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The real argument isn't really in him starting his heroics at manhood, because it really doesn't work in any context that has him have powers at a young age He would have to operate at some capacity The real argument is does he go public or stay secretive? There is something worth discussing

it feels like a natural conclusion to any discussion that includes him activating his powers at a young age, because he has to learn how to use them, especially if the Kents actually want him to use them for good

Like the Kents taught him the morals to be a superhero, but also they were unaware of how he was feeling and kept him trapped feel like fundamentally incompatible thoughts and those years of stuff to do and learn include how to use his powers which is where Superboy comes into the picture

yeah i don't think it's unrealistic either, but the relationship he'd have with his parents would have to look fundamentally different to how it's portrayed if you want to make it work which most interpretations except MoS and S&L don't do, which is where I accept it to an extent

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and then you fell into a depression because of the action, rather than the depression itself being the secret

and they are, for the most part, forced to see him have explosive reactions thanks to them i get the comparison, i really do, but it's not quite the same thing the more direct comparison is if your parents knew you were queer and kept you in the closet for your own safety

yeah hence the kents needing to be more flawed than they're usually portrayed and also I get the relationship with your depression, I've been there, but it's like if your parents knew about your depression and just expected you to cope anyway, because the Kents DO know about his powers

...Where Clark is blatantly aware of his super-powers and his background for a very long time. Why didn't he start earlier? What was he doing from ages 8-18?

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...retconned to differentiate) But then you hit stuff like ALL the origins Post-Crisis, where there was the JSA and other heroes, and the Kents seemed pretty optimistic about the world, and you ask: Why did he wait? It gets EVEN worse in stuff like Birthright and Secret Origins...

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The issue is the Kents NEED to be more flawed than they're usually depicted. Earth 2 Kents were pretty paranoid people raising a child in the midst of a depression, post Great War, and that helped sell the difference between Earth 2 and Earth 1 (even though E2 was planned to have Superboy but got...

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Or that the Kents are so scared for their son that they won't let him express himself. These are fine. I like these just fine. MoS does it, S&L does it, but even stuff like Smallville pokes holes in it because Clark's own desire to help triumphs over these fears, but still. You can make it work.

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Like was using his powers exclusively for chores? And then what changed? That he became an adult? That's it? He's had his powers his whole life! Why not just...start helping earlier? Why wait? Some interpretations give the blunt answer of "The world isn't ready for him"

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...his own desire to want to be himself ALL the way till his mid-20s? All these years with these powers and he CHOOSES not to do anything with them? After all that talk about the Kents teaching him to use his powers to help others? Why was he not helping?

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f i t. @fitmarshmellow.bsky.social · 22/11/2024

Ok think about it this way The Kents are sold as great parents. So, did they just like...sit there watching their son be lonely and repressed? Like for more than 10 years? And on Clark's end, does he just like---ignore all the people he could be helping that he hears? Does he ignore...

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Superboy or not, this is always the answer Clark spends most of his childhood actively afraid of his powers and/or on a very purposeful journey to accept himself, which limits his powers Ironic that he accidentally replicated this with his son as well.

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f i t. @fitmarshmellow.bsky.social · 20/11/2024

I'm cooking a thread on Twitter rn And yes, I do make this about Superboy, eventually.

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The symbiote is in mourning for its lost species and desperately does not want Earth to come to the same fate, while Peter Parker is your average joe who's got a lot of resentment in his life, and the dynamic is built on that give and take.

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also completely unrelated to anything, but i had this dream of a fusion of Superman, Spider-Man, and Venom, where the symbiote was the last survivor of the Klyntar race and it landed on Earth, alone Peter Parker finds it and takes care of it and they eventually bond to become a Superman figure.

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i gotta fucking lock in and make something or else 2025 about to be the worst year for Superman shit ever if the movie bombs

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my dream is one day i'll galvanize all these muzzies on CBTWT and the 2030s will be known as the Muslim Invasion of the American Comic Book Industry

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A lot of ppl pointing out that Hitch JLA story and I'm just like it's not the same story and it's not even Rao himself like just um actuallying for nothing Like brother if it was my idea I would've never even forgot about the other story because it would've actually been good

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i don't think divorce, maybe some time trapper bullshit that keeps Jon trapped in 31st and wipes their marriage from history for as long as Trump is in office But the key is that it will be reversed eventually

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An anti-Superman Rebirth if you will Ong, maybe even send Jon back to the 31st Century and undo the marriage for like 4 years so we can REALLY go as far against the grain as possible

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we all have our examples of "comics were always political" but this is like the exact flavor of identity politics with the exact responses too we just force ourselves to engage now we should bring back a proper Lois book and really test the limits in the middle of Trump's administration

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the whole idea if a gang that adapts to Superman is just too good to pass up had a whole idea of extending to be a whole underground network of organized criminals, where if you want to even think of operating in metropolis u have to operate by the mafia's rules super-organized crime

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i appreciate posting bsky because here i don't have to deal with the worst brand of people um actually ppl with heads filled with useless thoughts

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@markwaid.bsky.social look man was this so hard why tease a moral conundrum if you're going to remove it

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