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Matt Ford @mford.bsky.social · 04/12/2025

Public smoking bans just got in under the wire, too. Younger folks might not realize how rare they used to be and how hard they were to enact.

Quinn Yeargain@yeargain.bsky.social

it is MIRACULOUS that we got rid of lead paint and asbestos when we did. if we had tried that today, there would be people whining about how we're restricting their rights.

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Matt Ford @mford.bsky.social · 04/12/2025

Reading about smoking ban proposals before the tobacco master settlement in 1998 is always a trip: www.nytimes.com/1984/02/15/u...

The nation's airlines, joining forces with the tobacco industry, urged the Civil Aeronautics Board today not to ban smoking on flights of less than two hours.

The ban has been strongly pushed by opponents of smoking, prompting the board to renew its consideration of the issue after it rejected a similar proposal in 1981.

Beginning two days of testimony from opponents and supporters of the ban, the industry's Air Transport Association told the board the airlines were providing ''reasonable accommodations'' to both smoking and nonsmoking passengers.

''Smoking is a fact of life,'' said Kathleen Argiropoulis, representing the association and most of the major airlines. ''It is something we must accomodate.''

But John F. Banzhaf, a spokesman for an antismoking group, Action on Smoking and Health, said that despite the practice of separating smokers and nonsmokers on aircraft, cigarette smoke ''creates a serious, documented problem for many passengers.''

The tobacco industry argued that most airline passengers opposed a ban on smoking and were satisfied with a separate, nonsmoking section.

''There is no credible scientific evidence that smoking aboard modern aircraft endangers the health of nonsmoking passengers,'' Richard Kingham, counsel to the Tobacco Institute, told the board.

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Sofya @sofyajanus.bsky.social · 04/12/2025

"its a fact of life we have to accommodate to it" sounds like ai wankers today

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WhatWouldShermanDo @name-is-the-byline.bsky.social · 04/12/2025

I had reason to see a huge number of the documents that the Tobacco Institute had to produce when the DoJ sued them. TI *ABSOLUTELY* knew the health risks of 2nd hand smoke, and they knew the risks by the 60s. They buried studies, used weasel words in testimony, and outright lied about it.

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chilito @hectorarbuckle.bsky.social · 04/12/2025

Wow this sounds just like arguments for keeping dangerous multi-lane arterials through thickly peopled neighborhoods, even when they kill and maim lots of people.

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Craig Winston @craigwinston.bsky.social · 04/12/2025

Ma' rights to make other people sick is fundamental.

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McIrwin @mcirwin47.bsky.social · 04/12/2025

I distinctly remember looking up and seeing the blue haze at the ceiling of places all the time as a kid, it’s so wild in retrospect

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Accountabilabuddy🔻 @accountabilabuddy.bsky.social · 04/12/2025

Their "reasonable accommodation" to non-addicts was that they weren't billing us for compulsory exposure to their poisonous bullshit.

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Adrian Nesta @justanesta.com · 04/12/2025

I had a similar jolt when I stumbled on something the CDC published from ~the turn of the century. bsky.app/profile/just...

Adrian Nesta@justanesta.com

I was reading something that backlinked to a 1999 CDC Morbidity & Mortality Weekly Report listing the ten great public health achievements of the century. Striking how many of these are directly or indirectly in the crosshairs of our conservative political movement. www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview...

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sfineville.bsky.social @sfineville.bsky.social · 04/12/2025

Me and some friends were in NOLA for work in 1997 and went to a fancy (to us) restaurant. We were like oh wow we can smoke in here? We tried to smoke at our table, but it was just too gross, even for us (now former) smokers. I always wish I had been ostracized sooner for smoking, woulda quit sooner!

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