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Will Rea @willrea.bsky.social · 25/09/2026

Has there been any historical research done to see what was grown there?

Will Rea @willrea.bsky.social · 25/09/2026

Have you talked to John Bunker?

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Well, if you find a suspected Fusca with larger then normal fruit, there'd be invested as well, as there's known accessions with blight resistance. Larger fruit would be beneficial to ingressing the resistance into domestica

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I think it'd be unique enough to preserve to ask/offer. Is the fruit of typical size?

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Might want to submit it to PRGU-Geneva?

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Damn, I've only seen ones 2.5-3m tall

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I do like them after some storage time, when ripe off the tree, Arkansas Black is dense, so it’d be good to throw at people 👌

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Search Accessions GRIN-Global

In the States, Fedco and Raintree among others. Also, for the rare stuff you can’t find commercially, you can request scion from the USDA germplasm repository for apples in Geneva, NY. npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/s...

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Or a few years if grafted onto some EMLA rootstocks.

Look for Hawkeye, it’s the original.

Depends, but they can get up to 150 years or more in some cases.

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More books, featuring the cheapest copy of Perry Pears I’ve ever seen.

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I'd be enjoying the Newtown Pippins this season, as more of orchards in the area are getting ripped out!

Oh, you're in the Bay Area! In August (might be too late by now) you might be able to find Pink Pearl.

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That's just staining from the skin.

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Can only get them in season. Trader Joe's usually has Lucy Glo. Definitely check specialty grocers or if you're in an apple growing region, farmer's markets.

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No, they're only going to be grown in Washington state for some years yet.

I think the greater threat to Gravensteins in Sonoma county are vineyards.

Honestly, if you're shopping at supermarkets, you're really going find the same few varieties, no matter where in the country you are. NC has growers of heirloom fruit, you might need to go to specialty grocers or farmers markets to try new varieties.

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Ananas Reinette, if you can get it.

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I love Mountain Rose for pies and tarts, if you can get them. Lucy Rose or Lucy Glo might have good texture in this use as well.

Recipes — Out on a Limb Apples

I'll echo @kwiaht.org's book suggestion and add apple legend John Bunker's website of recipes: www.outonalimbapples.com/recipes

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There are some low chill hour varieties: Dorsett Golden, Anna, and Shell of Alabama.

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Red fleshed apples. Pink Pearl, left. Niedzwetzkyana, right.

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I believe one would be Annurca, mentioned by Pliny The Elder in 79 AD.

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Check your local farmers markets if you're in an apple growing region. Small orchards are more likely to have some heirlooms growing.

I would say you need to take a look outside supermarkets for quality American cider. 99% of canned cider is made with bulk juice of concentrate. That being said, I love UK cider and perry.

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