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*also [am] not going to tolerate anyway, that's it, no more. Friends can ask me privately for my opinion on smaller details or to clarify, but I'm done involving myself. I will only ever step in like this to defend a friend's name, so hopefully this will remain exceedingly rare.

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I genuinely empathize with her because I know it's related to mental health struggles, and I think people should remain empathetic as well, but I also not NOT going to tolerate someone just saying that bullshit about Ren for speaking up in a reasonable manner. She needs to get help, sincerely.

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To me, it demonstrates that Corro has NOT put in enough effort to change her poor conflict management skills, and that she remains incredibly wrathful and vindictive in retaliation to perceived slights.

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To escalate "Reasonable concern that may or may not have the full picture" into "Deliberately trying to isolate and kill people" is so vile and manipulative that I have no other words to describe it.

Corro, on the other hand, is blowing this so out of proportion that she is deliberately making efforts to aggressively smear Ren as a serial harasser/abuser and claim that they make concerted, secret efforts to drive *multiple* artists out of the community, which can't be corroborated.

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If you want to believe that Ren's claims are inaccurate, the least charitable read one should give then is only that Ren has a misunderstanding on how much Corro has grown and moved on. Ren isn't trying to smear Corro, just look out for their community, and even then that's the *least* charitable.

If you want to take Corro's word for it that they're actively, maliciously targeting her, then there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, but to me, even with the discord mod screenshot, Ren's perception of Corro is grounded and they have valid reasons to be cautious of her.

Last thing I'm going to say on the matter because beyond defending my friend I have too many other things going in my life to fixate on this: Ren has been nothing but kind to the community, has a very solid rep among other artists, and generally keeps to themself.

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Telling mods about an abrasive person with a questionable history who downplays her actions, rarely and only selectively take accountability, and deliberately flips the script to villainize the person rightfully and responsibly calling attention to her toxic behavior is not a "whisper campaign".

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Corro has an issue with handling the way she is perceived relative to the way she perceives others, especially in conflict, and especially in how she treats others to begin with; retaliating disproportionately for a perceived slight is only par for the course.

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People familiar with this behavior of hers are all reading this scenario as yet another instance of downplaying and evasion, flipping some of her own wrongs onto others. Plenty of folks in the know are seeing this as crying wolf.

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Corro's behavior more broadly in social settings has demonstrated that she's often willing to quickly flip a script even at obvious instances of her own wrongdoing and paint herself as the main one who was wronged in a scenario even if it went both ways, or was mostly her fault.

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I think it's good to be wary of adults who associated with prominent teenage NSFW artist. Like I said, I think enough time has passed and other folks have since changed, apologized, etc. but Ren's caution is/was not unwarranted, and as I also said, it's not JUST that history that leaves Ren wary,

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I also believe someone who, even if unknowingly, engaged with minors active in NSFW spaces (which, in the noted instance was one of the biggest open secrets in those circles) to me that would leads anyone to have a totally reasonable level of wariness around her.

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themselves while having known poor conflict management skills in social groups choosing only two instances of such behavior that paint her in a good light (telling only two bad people to do that). To be honest, it reads to me like a habitual behavior she exhibits when tense, even in her own doc.

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All things considered, I think her history could be forgiven if she demonstrated a change and took total accountability, but she only selectively picks more "noble" things to take accountability on. Someone who targets someone publicly by name for 24 hours and *admits* to telling people to kill-

Not a valid crashout, this isn't how things are handled. Corro has a history of reframing and downplaying her poor behavior towards others even outside of this issue, I find it believable that she's also downplaying and reframing her questionable history that she self-admitted to.

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I did, but I was also literally 12 and also my oldest surviving comment is "Butterfingers :3" on revenge of the mad madman so i think that's pretty good

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People who sincerely want to heal, resolve issues, and move on don't go on 24 hour targeted tirades against single individuals and she needs to get a grip and realize that this is NOT normal, NOT helping how people perceive her, and ren doesn't deserve any of this shit.

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This doesn't erase the fact that Corro has dealt with serious shit in her life, but to be perfectly honest, I find it sickening that she is using her other instances of suffering to garner sympathy in this moment conjunction with this unrelated, reasonable desire to not associate with her.

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Truth of the matter is, sometimes people don't like you, and you need to make peace with that instead of turning them into a supervillain in your mind. Ren is not trying to ruin Corro's life, ren just wants to keep the communities she participates in safe from aggressive and vindictive people.

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Please do no harass her, I implore only people who consider her a close friend to attempt to talk her down from this, but otherwise this is not your place. I am saying this only to defend ren's name, who has otherwise only expressed completely reasonable caution at Corro's past and current behavior.

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I don't doubt Corro is going through a lot but it needs to be said, mental health can explain someone's behavior but it doesn't excuse it. She treats people poorly then when they are fed up with her she twists that abandonment into sincere evil against her and it's the exact reason people back off.

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This is not fucking cool. Ren has no obligation to comment and she's a fucking saint for holding her tongue (and handled it maturely by NOT making it public, as much as corro seems to *want* a callout) but I'm going to stand up for my friend as politely as possible.

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It needs to be reiterated, all ren did was mention, in ONE server, that Corro has a history of bad behavior that isn't conducive to a polite atmosphere. Corro has been banned from multiple servers for such behavior, usually without ren's influence. But to her, ren is the orchestrater of all of it.

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Frankly her vindictive scorched earth episode over the last 24 hours doing nothing but villainize ren with quite literal full admittance that the end goal is to smear someone's name is not fucking normal, and proof enough as to why ren was wary of her in the first place!

Two posts from corro, saying

"This ends with remandedur's name being what people think of when they think of 'online harassment' in this space if they don't publicly retract the claims they've been pedaling and apologize. Until then I'll keep driving the pressure up on them. Or more specifically this ends wiht me and remanedur being pushed off the internet together. I don't care about a space that enambles scum like them to ride to prominence at the expense of however many other artists they coordinate harassment towards."

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