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I am not asking for communities to move their boards. A central place with open data is the only important thing. If that place has good features for moderating and maintaining history, and promises to keep that data open forever, i don't care if its therun, src or elsewhere 4/5

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What will happen with data on src is still unclear. Upon learning about the terms changes, I have halted all API calls to src and the only way to import runs from there is through your user export. But this is flawed, because the export is missing many pieces of data needed. 3/5

It will take me a couple of months to get them to a state where they will be sufficient for use by all communities. For some smaller communities, they may already be good enough. Please let me know any bugs or features that you are missing. Always happy to listen. 2/5

I've been getting 200+ requests to moderate leaderboards on therun: huge thanks to all!!! But i feel like the following should be said plainly: therun's leaderboards are in very early beta, they only launched 2 weeks ago. There are still many bugs and missing features. 1/5

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That means if someone is no longer active or unable to export their own runs, it is literally not allowed to export that persons run anywhere else. Their leaderboard history is completely at the mercy of Elo. That's the problem. Not ownership.

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Changing your terms does not combat AI scraping. There are many tools for that, but AI scrapers do not look at terms of use. Beside, scraping was already disallowed in the previous terms. It's also not about run ownership. Nothing has changed there. But the licence has changed on these runs.

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Yeah that's what the terms explicitly include. However, they responded to a similar question here, where they contradict that, so I guess it needs written permission technically bsky.app/profile/spee...

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As far as I can tell, this part of the terms apply. It says you're not allowed to access the service if you're building something that competes or offers features that are "substantially similar" to anything Elo builds. Again, not a lawyer though :D but it reads like it.

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I've sent them an email with a few clarifying questions, including this one, because that's also what I'm curious about. I can get back to you on this once I get answers. Similar: if the data that was *submitted* during that period is under CC, not even obtained

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There's more like who verified it etc. But I agree these are pretty much facts that can't be copyrighted. SRC basically states you can't copy it anymore to alternatives that resemble SRC, even manually. If that's legally upholding I don't know of course, but that's what the terms say

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Leaderboards and speedrun.com’s new terms of service

I wrote a blog post to go deeper into all this and to spread awareness. Please read it to dive deeper into what this all means. therun.gg/blog/leaderb... I spent like 10 hours reading through the terms to really understand it, but I'm not a lawyer. This is not legal advice

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speedrun.com replaced its terms of use on 1 October 2026 and dropped the Creative Commons licence. What changed, why it matters for runners and community tools, and what you can do.

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What can we do? - Export your own runs - Talk to your game's mods. - Ask Elo directly (mail, their news post, discord) Not asking to switch to my leaderboards, I don't give a shit about that. This is about much more. Community backlash to this has changed their mind before.

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And this is just a small part of what the news post and the FAQ doesn't mention. The new terms completely hammer down any competition and remove any intention of having open, inclusive data.

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You can still export your own runs if you want. But runners who quit or are in other ways unable to export their data are stuck on src forever. Huge part of speedrunning history now lives on one platform, under that one platform's terms. This is unacceptable

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Using SRC to build anything with "substantially similar" features is banned. Leaderboard, run tracking, runner profile, you name it. Basically every speedrun tool is banned from using SRC data. They don't even allow you to copy runs manually to those tools anymore????

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Donations now count as "commercial". You use ko-fi to support your discord bot servers? Can't use SRC data. Stats site with Patreon? (me lol) can't use it. Even charity marathons can't use SRC data anymore without explicit permission of Elo, their parent company.

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Disclosure: I run therun, so this affects me and therun's leaderboards too. But this is not about that, this is much bigger than my site. Every discord bot, overlay, marathon, tool that uses SRC data is affected. And it affects runners and mods much more than they make it seem.

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SRC's news post about this says nothing changes day to day for runners. They ship it together with an AI bot ban (good!!!), but there's a LOT they don't mention. Donations are now commercial. Competitors can't use their api anymore. They can't even manually copy runs (!!!!!)

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A year after Elo acquired src, they changed their terms to do exactly this: remove Creative Commons. After community pushback, they put it back stating "no interest in restricting access to any runs" Now, 5 years later, the licence is gone again, and src act like it's no biggie

Screenshot of SRC status they have no interest in restricting access to any runs or community resources.

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therun.gg @therun.gg · 01/10/2026

SRC changed their terms of use yesterday, and released a news post with an FAQ. They make it sound like not a big deal. It's a big deal. The Creative Commons licence is gone. They claim ownership over the data now. Thread about what this means, and what we can do about it 🧵

Comparison of the old src terms and the new src terms

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Would seasonal leaderboards be a good idea? Would they motivate you to do runs to get a good time each month/quarter/year?

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therun.gg @therun.gg · 30/09/2026

As an aside, IL's and Category extensions are just category groups on therun. You can define groups for your categories in any way you want, and they will be shown grouped. This allows for much more flexibility.

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therun.gg @therun.gg · 30/09/2026

On therun's leaderboards, the default landing page lets you see an overview of all categories. This is also available for IL's and Category Extensions. This is configurable per game. You can also choose have users land directly on the first leaderboard. pretty cool no?

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therun.gg @therun.gg · 29/09/2026

Leaderboards have a ton of tools to make moderating boards easier Here's the built-in retime tool: frame skip to the start frame, press start, automatically skip to the end, press end, and record time. Doesn't have to be hard! Works for both twitch and youtube VODs

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therun.gg @therun.gg · 18/09/2026

It's an optional toggle mods can turn on. If turned on, runs will automatically go to the mod queue once someone gets a PB in LiveSplit. So a mod will still look at it. From there they can approve, ask for a VOD, decline, etc. It can also be turned off, to enforce manual submissions by runners

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therun.gg @therun.gg · 18/09/2026

Features: - Auto-submitted PB's directly from LiveSplit - Board overview page - Cross-category standings - Advanced mod tools - SRC import of your runs - No ads, no paywalls, no selling any of your data - Full board and game exports, data is always yours - Much more to list!

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therun.gg @therun.gg · 18/09/2026

For the last 2 years I've been building leaderboards on therun. Today, they go in beta. I'm looking for communities to test them out. Not to switch over, purely for testing. Import your board from SRC easily, poke around, give me thoughts. Contact me here or through discord to test stuff!

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therun.gg @therun.gg · 19/08/2026

bro thinks he's yugi

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Now we're talking!!!

I'll see what I can do, no guarantee though

It's a start but I'd like to start checking for twitch follower count in these rooms as well

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Normalize VIP areas at speedrun events

therun.gg @therun.gg · 07/08/2026

Terrible take. 5% is way too lenient. If you're not top 3 in your game they shouldn't even allow you in the venue tbh

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It's now possible to force-start and force-end races. When people don't ready up or something goes wrong, you can click the buttons to force the site to either start or finish the race. Race mods and race creators can do this

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therun.gg @therun.gg · 03/08/2026

If you are (or were) a leaderboard mod and have good ideas how to improve leaderboards and how to improve the experience of moderating them, please get in touch. Would love to share thoughts :)

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therun.gg @therun.gg · 11/05/2026

I've started working on a rework of the games system. This prepares for a fully fledged leaderboards feature, with verification, filters, customization etc. Will take a while but looking forward to sharing it with you all!

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The Run | Watch Live Runs

And lastly is some global information about the user and their runs. Total playtime, total attempts etc. Go check the tool out over at therun.gg/live and let me know what you think. I think it's super cool to pace pal with :)

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Watch streams of runners who are currently live and attempting a run, and discover new runners for your favorite games!

The fourth tab contains stories. This is a human readable format of some of the interesting facts about the current split, the previous split, about the runner in general, and about the run in general.

The third, "Prediction", contains predictions for the current split, for the total run, and a history of predictions for this run. Let me know if it's accurate and see if you can beat my predictions bitch

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The next tab, "Run", shows you general info about the current run. Graphs with delta's to PB, a graph with the timesaves, and per-split info. See the main post for a screenshot :)

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The panel you see consists of five tabs. The first, "Split", has all the info about the current split. Times for the segment (PB, Best Possible), a prediction for the segment etc. It has the reset rate and info about the previous 20 times this split was completed.

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therun.gg @therun.gg · 28/04/2026

I created the ultimate pace pal tool When going to the /live page, every run now has a big green button on the top right called "Commentary". This opens a panel with all info about the run you're watching that you need. Small thread below to explain all the things it does :)

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holy shit my ass had forgotten out pedro this is amazing

therun.gg @therun.gg · 28/04/2026

wait this is so sick actually let's normalize writing your pb on your console or controller

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therun.gg @therun.gg · 27/04/2026

For now, the backup is only available for supporters. It would be to expensive to enable this for all users. I am looking at ways to make a similar feature available for all users. Thanks everyone!