i think Matthias Bal's work is foundational, along with this paper, but my NEAM posts *do* demonstrate a tiny iteration of the landscape, showing you can get LLM like structures from MaxEnt and pure stat mech, so i don't think this is psychosis but it's all near-expertise not perfectly in domain
![Philosophical implications
Philosophers have interpreted the Church-Turing thesis as having implications for the philosophy of mind, [68)[69]170] B. Jack Copeland states that it is an open empirical question whether there are actual deterministic physical processes that, in the long run, elude simulation by a Turing machine; furthermore, he states that it is an open empirical question whether any such processes are involved in the working of the human brain. [71] There are also some important open questions which cover the relationship between the Church-Turing thesis and physics, and the possibility of hypercomputation.
When applied to physics, the thesis has several possible meanings:](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:drrstoxu4to57dhv453ziznq/bafkreiehxlbt7dwl6mprx5cwd33ph2v4vivygsivxzxd53ir6r2zp7emvi)
![I have discussed this elsewhere with respect to things like learning in gene regulatory networks [212,213] and ecological dynamics [233]. But there is more. For example, geometric frustration [305,306,307,308,309] misalignment of parts within a whole-is bona fide frustration of the kind that gets magnified (in some architectures) into our familiar cognitive version. On my view, mind precedes and is a superset of life, but we call "living" those things which are very good at scaling up the lowly competencies of their parts into aligned collective intelligences [185] with bigger cognitive light cones that project into new spaces to which the parts have no access, thus enabling the physical manifestation of new patterns and increasingly more sophisticated cognitive agents-all of which coexist in one material embodiment (Figure 13A,B). This is because the Platonic space also contains patterns that we recognize as kinds of minds, ranging across different classification schemes [123,310] (Figure 13C,D), and nervous systems (or perhaps cyborg or Al architectures) which facilitate the ingression of specific types of patterns. This provides a different way of thinking about the inner lives of n organs and various living constructs that are created for biomedical or bioengineering purposes. But this framework opens two other doors, less comfortable for many than even the diversity of minds suggested by the hierarchical, multi-scale competency of living bodies.](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:drrstoxu4to57dhv453ziznq/bafkreih4hwxhiyoq4q2srkmr4m7k6ivihqzxzunlgs55g3inl5sefy5rpm)
