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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Man, if that's the standard we're using, I have bad news about the UN

ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Forcefully ethnically cleansing your own people for the sake of peace is moral and legitimate, even if it's obviously quite controversial

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Did the settlers happened to all share a particular ethnicity? I'll remind you, plenty of Egyptians ~settled~ in Gaza way before 2005, yet they weren't displaced Also, don't take me using correct terminology as a moral value. We should ethnically cleanse the Jews fromt the West Bank next

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

"But are they making life hard?" Obviously, life is usually very hard under warfare. There are worse humanitarian catastrophes with literally more bloodshed, starvation, torture etc ongoing, half which aren't considered genocides purely because of the "intent" clause Not very relevant though

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

The literal conditions for the war to end have also never included, at any point, "Jewish resettlement in Gaza" or "Anexation of Gaza into Israel" And even just the military occupation of Gaza does not have majority support. This "end the war" talk is crumbling by the second, and it won't stand

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Heck, I guess Sharon cleansed the wrong people in 2005. Maybe he read the paper backwards? There simply isn't "mass Jewish resettlement in Gaza" even as a concept away from Ben Gvir's delusions, and the Israeli public wants nothing to do with it either

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Lol, that's your theory? "They want all Gazans to leave" is currently not even near the table. At worst we had the absolutely shitpost of an idea that was sending part of Gaza to Sudan during the reconstruction, but that was not a real plan, it was just fascist cruelty in a statement

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

It gets progressively harder to think y'all just don't really think of Jews as people. You not only speak at if Jews never existed, yet as if Judaism itself was a colonial invention Do you understand how absolutely downright r3tarded that is?

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Shove the history of the Ottoman Empire on ya face and read about Jewish disposession at the time. Have fun looking for similar around the planet You don't care much for Zionism because you don't care much for the Jewish question, which makes you useless in terms of defending jewish survival

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Those get to fight for what's theirs, that's to say, what they ~own~ They do not get to blood and soil their way into claiming the Negev, and by choosing war instead of partition, they 100% gambled their right to much of the land And they don't get to steal land from the local Jews

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Put it on ya head right now The only Arabs whom are native to Palestine are the ones whose family was Jewish at some point in history The rest came in through conquest, migration or colonisation. There's clearly hardly a difference for y'all when debating Israel-Palestine

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

1.5 million of the Arabs living in Palestine in 1947 weren't natives to the region, you people have blood and soil on the mind. "Indigenous groups fighting a colonizing force" could well describe the Crusades if you make it vague enough + Erasing Jewish nativism

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Well aware of it. If ya think "Politician is a pedophile" is much news, you haven't been around long, unfortunately. Wanna make an actual point or just share news? I'm happy you're bringing light to an issue, I just hope you actually care about pedophilia and isn't just using this as a "gotcha" hah

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

You want to mean something, but you don't know what you mean, do ya? You're trying to make sense of a sentiment that isn't very logic, you want to put into words and reason but it's tough. You know you have to misrepresent me to do it, and part of your brain just won't let ya, ain't it so?

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Define "weirdo" here The concept of "weird", of course, stands in opposition to the concept of "normal" When it comes to identity, the "norm" for very long was seen as cishet vanilla with strict gender roles Any deviant is 'weird', yet I wouldn't say that queer people being "weirdos" makes it ok

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Now, can I PLEASE get any admission whatsoever that Arab Antisemitism plays any role whatsoever on the reason why the people doing Nazi salutes and chanting "Khaybar oh Yahud!" fire rockets and start wars against the Jewish State Until ya get there, you're talking fanfiction, not politics

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

You need to find a way to argue about this that doesn't make the concept of 'Palestinian genocide' favourable in any way, shape or form If you told a genuinely genocidal Israeli what you told me now, they'd say "They attacked first" and clap over the ashes of Gaza. You need to beat these people

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

By going "they attack Israel because Israel attacks first" you have 1) steered away from the idea that it's about the Palestinians. Good, that's a nice start to realism 2) Implicitly legitimised the idea of indiscriminate counter attacks against civilians as a response Which is stupid

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

> Usually Got a number? Let's suppose you were to look at every time it happened and find, idk, that Israel has launched 100x less rockets than it's received, and that it rarely operates without an existing threat Would that change your view or nah? (Hardly matters btw, you already conceded)

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Neither of us takes our morals from God's command, I'd suppose, so I'd like to know where yours come from For me it's easy, HR based utilitarianism + not tolerating intolerance is about the foundation of everything I stand for

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Also, what's with the "the love of your parents is a valid judge of character" thing? There are too many queer people whose parents outright disowned them for this to be so casually put forth as an argument. Are they less valid because they had the misfortune of being born to monsters?

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Nope. I think the most shameful thing I've done is spend too long talking to nobodies on the internet for no good reason, that's cringe and something that would get people at a dinner table going "Why? 🤨"

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Did the Arab League, in 1947, invade Israel and attempt a genocide out of concern for Palestinians? Out of support for a Palestinian State? The answer is no, the issue was Israeli presence, Jewish self-governance, an "humiliation to Islam and the Ummah!" as said at the time Annoying, no?

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

And more, the really easy way to prove this is looking at their "allies". The Houthi? Not occupied. Iran? Not occupied. Hezbollah? Not occupied. ISIS? Not occupied. Afghanistan? Not occupied. And yet they all toss rockets and smuggle weapons, why is that? But this goes back too, you know so

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Israel didn't have to stop pummeling Egypt and Jordan so we could get peace with 'em, they simply gave up on wanting to erase Israel and the Jews and that was it That's the gap Palestine has to bridge for peace's sake. Until that's done, terrorism is a given

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

You can say "Well, if they put the walls down there'd be less terrorism!" but that isn't true, what motivates terrorism isn't the existence of the blockade, it's the existence of Israel itself, lol And even if Israel did not exist, Arab antisemitism already had an issue with Jews just being around

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

> Turning Gaza into a concentration camp is what incited terrorism Can I get a "terrorism in Gaza before the blockade"? You're doing retroactive history here. It's not because Israel built walls that they blow themselves up, it's because they blow themselves up that the walls were built

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

And like, we both know this to be true at this point. You might have enough hatred in your heart not to see it, but it's pretty clear on my end Every rapist in Israel could be trialed and erased, and you'd still be mad, because you're fundamentally mad at Israel existing, aren't you?

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Anyways, it hardly matters It's not because you genuinely care about pedophilia that you're arguing with me rn, you just hate Israel and needs to find any outlet possible to do so. If Israel was utopic, you'd call the grass "too yellow" and demand Palestine took over, even if Palestine was desert

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

"Ehrm, if Israel is so good, how come it hasn't arrested every criminal? 🤓☝️" Hey, maybe the country could focus a little harder on prosecuting pedophiles if we spent less time fighting wars against terrorist, did that ever occur to ya?

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Do ya even read what you post? "Yeah, he was arrested, is being chased after but consistently escapes, this means Israel is pro pedo" Is this really your argument? Lmao. It's a damn shame we don't have the death penalty for pedophilia, but pretending this shit isn't just bloodlibel is r3tarded

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Rape anywhere else? 👨‍🦯 Rape in Israel? "Of course, it's their nature!" Boy you don't wanna know how many racist arguments we could make just by matching rape statistic and demographics across the world. Your logic literally would make this legitimate 🤣

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Like, I know you really want to pretend that the average Israeli daydreams of IDF soldiers committing sexual crime in Palestine en masse, but that just ain't the case It's lovely to see the absolute incapability of coherence in y'all though.

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

"Mainstream" as if counter protesting didn't take place + Again, the only reason this is spoken of as much is because we can recon it as abominable, and even then it's "Part of Israel was for sexual torture of a Hamas member" VS "Pedophilia is a constant in Palestinian society"

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

You can put on a tinfoil and call me a liar, or swallow that fact Whatever you choose is irrelevant. Morality isn't based on peer pressure, and I'm too nuanced to believe in ontological evil on the basis of race or religiosity alone

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

It's not too different from what happens with anything else that gets polarised Calling me a racist effectively isn't going to save anyone from persecution in Islamic countries, nor will opposing me aid the cause of coexistence. I simply am not for putting mosques down or "deport!1!1"

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

That's just the result of most islamophobes being rightwing and deranged + the trauma of Western intervention in the Middle East You're afraid that criticising Islam or any society built entirely around it would make you too close to the NeoNazis, so you avoid doing so and default to the opposite

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Same as "Fascism is bad, even if done by Arabs" It's a simple moral statement that should be easy for any Antifascist to agree with, but you'll usually get "Racism! Ayo!" as a response to it Is it because I genuinely think something about Arabs makes them inherently fash? Nope

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Again, not a dog whistle "The vast majority of Muslims is intolerant of criticism of Islam" is just a fact. Both progressive Muslims and apostates literally deal with the consequences of that directly You just assume I have ulterior motive to speak, which is conspiratory nonsense

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

I think you people think that an argument ends when you get offended, and the more offended you get, the more "right" you are Hardly matters tho, as far as logical coherence goes, it's enough that my point is proven and hypocrisy is shown, that's the goal

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Calling someone racist for stating a fact about the vast majority of a certain group is silly This whole convo is about just that btw, not sure if you arrived just now, but I'm literally replying to "Jews are pedophiles" lol Not a lot of outrage over that statement, is there?

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Yes, name call at will Is it false though? You can always ask literally everyone who did it in the past and who does it now And we can't even speak of skewed data or systemic racism either. We're not over policing Islam Quite the opposite en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic...

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Islamic religious police - Wikipedia

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Then ya can follow with "should we base Israeli society in the Torah?" The orthodox might go "Mhnmyes", but everyone else has already chosen "fuck no" as their answer And I pray to God that we only grow more secular, less fascist and more progressive in the future 🙏

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

Ask any Jew on the planet if sexual slavery in the Bible was immoral, it won't take long for you to get a "obviously" (unless you're asking Ben Shapiro maybe 🤣) Say "Mohammed was a pedophile" loud enough and you're bound to get death threats in the West and death sentences in the East

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

"What's your point?" That Israeli society is closer to progressing past every past and current barbarity plaguing it than neighbouring societies by a mile, and therefore any argument on "Israel shouldn't exist because it's a bad society" is stupid, even more so if said by a Pro 🇵🇸 individual

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

That being said, we'll definitely have to burn a few neighbourhoods in Jerusalem to get rid of it on the Jewish side. Fundamentalist cults are always a breeding ground for pedophilic activity, and the hassidic community is the perfect place to hide with all of the shaming contained in it

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

In due time, Israel will rid itself of the issue, it's afterall a fortunately decreasing trend in the country in comparison to the earlier years, when the Law of Return didn't include any background checks and children's rights NGOs were much too weak to fight against it [...]

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ℝ𝕠𝕘𝕖𝕣, 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕩 🔞 @rogeryaf.furry.ac · 19/08/2025

I'm not sure if it's a cultural thing or a religious one, you're probably aware that most Muslims believe Mohammed married a 6yr old, raped her when she was 9 and nonetheless you shouldn't criticise him Anyways, not an issue that's gonna solve itself, I think.

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