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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 1h

using up no, no room pointing fingers clicking links

legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 1h

people trying their best people trying their best i choose hope i choose struggle i choose triumph of life over death but i choose it and i want u to let me know if when u have to put suppressor stick back up on from under my tongue so long alone a neurotic pendulum

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 1h

developing new new strategy for living life at hand going for long enough it becomes an exercise worth / able repeating way for life after death is nothing but nothing also is to do a full scale break rib fractures hands held 2 hard under pillow case textured skin doesnt mean shit 2 stop u 4 good)

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 5h

critical analysis of jackbox games; what do they allow for? what is their ideology? what is this production context? etc. etc.

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

Bruised earlobe that wont stop bleeding (inside and out)

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

I'm not sure I argued this exactly as I intended but yea And then also/again, ur welcome to proceed with/from this however u like tho, ofc Thank you for taking the time to engage with my argument. I hope u have a nice rest of your day. (hopefully i dont get banned for reply length this time...)

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

Which is a long way of saying, I think your argument could be stronger if you grounded it in political, material reality rather than anecdote and personal experience. I understand where you're coming from & your personal experience matters, but I think if u want to make larger claims this would help

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

And that in this light the latent sanism of the critique is brought out into new dimension. To use a very imperfect example this is to say that using racial epithet is bad at base but is bad in a different way when in context of using it against that racialized population

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

That said, I understand your argument to be, well at least some portion of the people this argument is directed to are having certain medical profile and maybe doing it out of certain utilitarian perspective of harm reduction (or something like this)

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

>that is, it would be wrong in all cases to make these sanist arguments that target the consumer of the media rather and leave out any question of production apparatus. this is wrong regardless of what type of people engage with this media, I think(?)

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

(By missing a little in the middle- this may not be the best way to put it, but I mean that I think that the fact that traumatized people turn to a certain art form is not to say that they are proportional majority of people who turn to that form of art in that expression)

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

Yes, thank you for this. This is helps me understand more of where you are coming from in your initial post I still think that maybe your argument is missing a little in the middle, but I understand where you are coming from and the point you are trying to make

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

If possible though, I'd like to say again that I'm interested in learning from you as you seem more knowledgeable in this area than me (and this is area I've meant to study some more about/within) Anyways, that's all for now. Take care and I hope you have nice rest of your day <3

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

I understand that my response has not been very succinct and has been largely unprompted- and this then can disincentivize engagement

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

I don't mean to pick on you or anything like this. I understand that you are mutuals with people I am mutuals with and through this (and baseline humanity that I try to approach all people with) I respect your position and would like to try to understand it better

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

It is of course in one's interest to fund research saying that what they're already in the business of doing is morally good and helps people heal

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

I don't have a read on what the ideology of Dystopia Entertainment is to say more about this but I think one starting position can be that there is some incentive and thus bias in this researcher reaching the conclusions they may be doing

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

As I said above, though, I am not so familiar with the field that you're mentioning. I didn't read the article you linked to but I see that the research comes out of Recreational Fear Lab which is in turn in collaboration with Dystopia Entertainment, a Danish based fear experience company

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

(Which I have interpreted as, the core causes of these traumas get changed by this or does this become a way to normalize this violence and fucked up shit happening in the first place?)

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

Another version of this argument can be found in Girls Rituals song "My Neck"; where she raises point of, yea I like putting finger in the wound and making and taking in media that makes me feel and reflects suffering- but how much does that get done?

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

I am a little bit skeptical about some of her motives, but Catherine Liu's work on trauma vis-a-vis her call 2 decommodify mental health could be useful for understanding one argument to this end

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

Lastly, I think that the individual-centered, medicalized framework of trauma might be limiting to the political imagination of understanding what art can be and what it is/does

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

Are there community organized screenings to ensure that the message gets 2 those in need, or is this 2 be circulated as commodity on paid streaming services or for ticket fees in theaters? Making money off work is not inherently bad, but it is a thing, so how do we understand that in this instance?

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

Has Rob Jabbaz surveyed the population to develop a sense of what trauma they are experiencing and thus what things they need to work through? And how is this media being funded? How is it being distributed?

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

Another place to get at this can be, insofar as horror provides catharsis, is the horror media that gets made a reflection of the will of the people? To what extent to people accept what they are given? Is this the best version of this there could be?

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

I won't speak in universalizing terms, but graphic horror media can also play 2 ends of reifying & normalizing certain types of violence- can be one critique (that I have heard from Marxist art theorists; granted, I have not read and do not have on hand the exact contours of their argument as such)

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

By this I mean in part the fact that there can be - and are - ideological valences of media. While, yes, consuming fiction can do things for people who have certain experiences of trauma, it is also that the fiction plays to certain messages and fantasies and is inscribed in power matrix of hegemony

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

I say this to say that while I agree that saying that there are moral or otherwise failures, shortcomings, etc. of people who consume violent horror (online or elsewhere), I think the proposed framing of catharsis that you're offering may be a limited way to understand who benefits from this

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

I think one question can be, to what extent does the fact that a reactionary critique of something exist mean that the thing is good? I vaguely understand that chuds are mad at Gears of War for mentioning queer people, but does this fact of its mentioning make it good for our liberation?

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

That said, I take from the fact that you are raising this openly and attempting to draw in the fact that this is a longer standing discourse that you are open to struggling with / through some of these ideas.

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

I will say too that I am not eminently familiar with the filed you're talking about or what the arguments for or against this form of engagement that i will hereafter call catharsis.

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

Hello, thank you for taking the time to articulate your position. I will start by saying that I am not exactly familiar with the discourse that you're responding to. If people are responding to this trailer with sanism, ableism, etc, then, yes, they are incorrect and their pov is problematic/harmful

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 10/10/2026

had a racist film teacher in undergrad who made us watch The Shining and read his chapter where he wrote about it in his book- bashing some Marxist film critic who had problems with it; my teacher said he didn't get that it was metaphor about Holocaust (or smthng) www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJjS...

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Stanley Kubrick's The Shining | The Imperial '80s Episode 57

YouTube video by Millennials Are Killing Capitalism Live!

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 09/10/2026

I'll say, I have struggled with this Genius annotation for quite a while. I was in denial for some time thinking that it was wrong or misinfo- that this is more of fans projecting But, if were being serious, i dont think this is quite true genius.com/27795695

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Annihilation is my thirst

A reference to the Nick Land book The Thirst for Annihilation

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 09/10/2026

is where i'm finding myself right now. i will think about this more, though- and, as i said, i will try at least to build on these thoughts with the email provided as there seems to be intention to do something that can help someone

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 09/10/2026

that is, this is an affective media warfare piece (it knows this too, fwiw) attempting to burn up all oxygen in the room i think this is too violent of an approach whereby the violence cuts against the efficacy of the argument the video does not quite trust the capacity of the people

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 09/10/2026

the video speaks to the horror of violence in Gaza. yes, this is correct. but other than the aesthetic nod to it, where is the room for imagining otherwise?

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 09/10/2026

this is to say that the video is still coming from idealist perspective. this is to say that the video is still centering empire. yes spacex is fascism, but - to take from comrade bluebirdsop's recent suggestion - is this not just internal-colonialism? 'fascism' as frame remains white-centered

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 09/10/2026

rewatching again, i think it is making some correct critique of the fascism of our world right now. that said, i believe that - even though it claims it wants to be doing otherwise - that it still unproductively reproduces some of the trappings of doomerism

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 09/10/2026

I struggle with some of this video but i take it as sincere attempt to do work it is linking/unlinking i will get in the tank and think about if there could be a productive way to reach out to build on this further, as the end card listing email says is an opening 2 be done

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 09/10/2026

the solipsism incentivized by algorithm idealism is as a dead end of all our times why do Land, Guattari, and Nietzsche seem to circulate farther on this internet as-if world than Kanafani, Cabral, and Newton www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj96...

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"for you"

YouTube video by katie dey

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 09/10/2026

idk. i feel like maybe i should try to work with other people do develop my ideas on this more but also i'm not sure to what extent i can focus on that right now alas/aargh

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 09/10/2026

i don't want to be right all the time, to be honest it maybe would help if i was better at articulating my arguments so people could receive them rather than lodging them in a curation project presentation

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legitsalt.bsky.social @legitsalt.bsky.social · 09/10/2026

wow.. who could have predicted that b1eed1ing would go on to work with bleood for art design (and artist website things) [sarcasm; me, i did] anime aesthetic music videos and tiktok editing are a pathway to 'success' - insofar as 'success' means finding welcome company within the hegemonic order

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