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omnes mundum facimus ⭕️ darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can. 🕯️ I am proud to be an instance of human and a member of the tribe of Muisca […] 🌉 bridged from ⁂ social.tchncs.de/@gamambel, follow @ap.brid.gy to interact

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EXPERIENCE #IoPT LIVE Three Open Online Evenings for Helping Professionals "Curious about IoPT and want to experience it before committing to a longer training? Join one of three live online introductory evenings for counsellors, psychotherapists, psychologists, coaches, bodyworkers and other […]
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Before Birth: How Prenatal Experience Shapes Human Development | Dr. Thomas Verny "In this special conversation for the Prenatal Consciousness Summit 2026, Dr. Thomas Verny explores what current science tells us about the influence of prenatal experience on psychological and emotional […]
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The Power of a Mother's Voice: Conscious Communication Before Birth | Dr. Susan Highsmith "Can communication between mother and baby begin before birth? In this presentation for the Prenatal Consciousness Summit 2026, Dr. Susan Highsmith explores the power of the mother’s voice and the […]
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Traum und Verantwortung e.V. @traum-und-verantwortung.bewegung.social.ap.brid.gy · 02/10/2026
The Felt Sense of Self: An Emergent Constellations View Monday, October 12, 2026 9:00 am – 10:25 am PT Online via Zoom "Are you sometimes not sure you actually exist? If so, it may mean that you are trying to function without having ever had enough resonant reflection to give you easy access […]
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Moritz Bartl @kommunikationsliebe.org · 01/10/2026
"like the ripples from a pebble dropped into a lake" www.quantamagazine.org/surprisingly…
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Surprisingly complex waves reveal the brain's inner workings
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Moritz Bartl @kommunikationsliebe.org · 01/10/2026
“We did not ask for this room. Or this music. We were invited in. Therefore, because the dark surrounds us, Let us turn our faces to the light. Let us endure hardship to be grateful for plenty. We have been given pain to be astounded by joy. We have been given life to deny death. We did not […]
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Moritz Bartl @kommunikationsliebe.org · 01/10/2026
Daughter: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-OoG1aGYO0 #music
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Traum und Verantwortung e.V. @traum-und-verantwortung.bewegung.social.ap.brid.gy · 29/09/2026
#Deutschland sind wir – Viele Geschichten, ein gemeinsames Feld 30 September 2026 | 8:00 - 9:30pm Berlin (CEST) "Deutschland trägt viele Geschichten in sich. Geschichten von Krieg und Frieden, Flucht und Ankommen, Teilung und Wiedervereinigung, Migration und Zugehörigkeit. Manche sind sichtbar […]
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Moritz Bartl @kommunikationsliebe.org · 29/09/2026
As a region of the world it was hardly the most conspicuous showcase for tenderness but, full of questions, we were all hanging on his every word. To illustrate his idea, he asked the audience the following question: how can you recognise the wise, the great self-realised men and women of this world? Nobody could find the right answer: by their actions, their writings or their attitude, their remarks or those of their disciples... Numerous participants tried various answers but no one managed to guess his reasoning. His answer caught us all short, "By the skin of their fingers, because it is very tender, didn't you know?"
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Moritz Bartl @kommunikationsliebe.org · 28/09/2026
I watched videos of babies being born until I was healed.
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Moritz Bartl @kommunikationsliebe.org · 28/09/2026
Apocalypse - now!
Hype-acalypse:

Rank your favorite doomsday scenarios in order of preference.

 - A new ice age
 - Destruction of ozone layer
 - Dramatic upsurge in earthquakes, volcanoes, and hurricanes
 - Universal drug addiction
 - Mass starvation
 - Takeover by monsters created through genetic engineering
 - Genocide of the imagination; lethal proliferation of dangerous images
 - Terrifying, contagious superstitions spread by apocalyptic pop prophecy
 - Insects and bacteria conspire to cull planet’s most dangerous species
 - Multinational corporate criminals create a single, globe-spanning totalitarian state with concentration camps that are the setting for popular reality TV shows
 - Mutated flu strain becomes unstoppable plague
 - Extraterrestrial invasion
 - Cataclysmic degeneration of language into incomprehensible babble and cliche
 - Anthrax and LSD dumped in water supplies
 - Revolt of super-intelligent machines
 - Stupidity becomes popular
 - Mass hypnosis by evil political and religious leaders
 - President, suffering from mental illness, goes berserk and nukes Mecca, Moscow, Beijing
 - Virus from outer space
 - Virus from inner space
 - Essential natural resources run out
 - Global addiction to porn results in accidental mass suicides through excessive masturbation
 - Psychic terrorists administer mass brainwashing that causes millions to buy so many products they can’t afford that they become destitute, can’t afford health care, and die from diseases caused by eating junk food out of garbage cans
 - The Internet births itself as a sentient global brain, but it’s so riddled with spam that it becomes a god-like cripple suffering from the Artificial Intelligence version of Alzheimer’s
 - Earth is hit by comet, asteroid, or mini-black hole
 - Wealthy philanthropists give everyone in the world $100,000, causing mass insanity
 - Sun goes supernova
 - Breakthroughs in disease control make it hard for people who are tired of living to die, leading to a pandemic of depression
 - The devil possesses everyone in the world
 - Nuclear war
 - Other (describe)
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Moritz Bartl @kommunikationsliebe.org · 28/09/2026
You're hungry for the infinite, and the infinite is hungry for you
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Moritz Bartl @kommunikationsliebe.org · 28/09/2026
Mat McHugh: A Pocketful of Shells www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlwXeLhsHmU open.spotify.com/track/1ToaEJHSGXIL… #music #musikZumMontag
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A Pocketful Of Shells
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Moritz Bartl @kommunikationsliebe.org · 28/09/2026
Neue Erforschungs-Gruppen in #München: Berührungen in Stille und freie Aufstellungen berührungen.com/gruppen
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Gruppen: Zur Zeit arbeite ich am liebsten in Gruppen. Was allein schwer zu üben ist, geht zu mehreren leichter. Und manches lässt sich überhaupt nur miteinander herausfinden. Beide Gruppen kommen ohne feste Leitung aus: Ich bringe die Form mit, aber niemand steht vorne, und niemand weiß mehr als die anderen.
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Traum und Verantwortung e.V. @traum-und-verantwortung.bewegung.social.ap.brid.gy · 25/09/2026
Join Matthew Green for the 'Month of Clarified Relating': "This October, I will lead a process over four weekly online sessions to help us cultivate our capacity to stay present and related in moments of challenge in our intimate relationships. I’ll be sharing from my own process of working to […]
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Traum und Verantwortung e.V. @traum-und-verantwortung.bewegung.social.ap.brid.gy · 25/09/2026
Die Welt der Frauen und Mädchen mit #Borderline Wie sie Halt finden in einem Leben zwischen Extremen "Die Symptome von Frauen und Mädchen mit Borderline werden zu oft als »total hysterisch«, »typisch Frau« oder »pubertär« abgetan. Sie erhalten oft erst im jungen Erwachsenenalter eine Diagnose […]
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Moritz Bartl @kommunikationsliebe.org · 24/09/2026
Carrie Tree: Sweet Illusion www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT8LXjDjAaQ open.spotify.com/track/7dhIdLQ0iIwY… #music #musikZurNacht
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Traum und Verantwortung e.V. @traum-und-verantwortung.bewegung.social.ap.brid.gy · 23/09/2026
"Whatever segment of the family transactions we studied, we found something seriously amiss . . . All of the schizophrenic patients under my care came from disturbed or very peculiar families. Indeed, sometimes after spending an hour or two with one or both of the patient's parents, I would […]
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Traum und Verantwortung e.V. @traum-und-verantwortung.bewegung.social.ap.brid.gy · 22/09/2026
Building a Culture of Empathy A Conversation with Edwin Rutsch "What happens when we think of empathy not only as an individual quality, but as something we can cultivate collectively? In this conversation, we’ll explore the science of empathy with Edwin Rutsch, founder of the Center for […]
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Traum und Verantwortung e.V. @traum-und-verantwortung.bewegung.social.ap.brid.gy · 22/09/2026
PocketProject #Podcast Episode #67 – Restoring Healthy Human Politics: Harnessing the Power of Compassion for Collective Action, with Rick Hanson “I’m very interested in fostering structures and frameworks so what worked in our bands of 50 people can be scaled up to eight billion people,” Rick […]
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Traum und Verantwortung e.V. @traum-und-verantwortung.bewegung.social.ap.brid.gy · 22/09/2026
Wie entsteht ein Wir, das unsere unterschiedlichen Geschichten gemeinsam tragen kann? "A collective healing process (online workshop) Hosted in German with simultaneous translation to English From 26. and 27. November, as part of our Project in Germany, we are inviting you to join us for a […]
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Traum und Verantwortung e.V. @traum-und-verantwortung.bewegung.social.ap.brid.gy · 22/09/2026
Normale Geburt e.V.: Jahresveranstaltung zum Thema 'Väter und Ihre Bedeutung für die Entwicklung der Kinder' 13. November, online "Wie verändert sich die Rolle des Vaters im Wandel der Generationen? Wie entsteht Bindung bereits in der Schwangerschaft und wie bringen sich Väter oder Co-Eltern […]
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Traum und Verantwortung e.V. @traum-und-verantwortung.bewegung.social.ap.brid.gy · 22/09/2026
Es gibt... 'Gerüchte', wir würden dieses Jahr einen Workshop am #40c3 anbieten. Dem ist nicht so.
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Moritz Bartl @kommunikationsliebe.org · 21/09/2026
#cranio
KURSBESTÄTIGUNG
Weiterbildung, Stillness Touch-Masterclass Kurs 1
Post-Biodynamische Cranial Praxis und die Evolution des Bewusstseins 1

Hiermit bestätigen wir
Moritz Valentin Bartl

die Teilnahme an der Weiterbildung

„Post-Biodynamische Cranial Praxis und die Evolution des Bewusstseins 1" vom 17. - 20. September 2026 mit Charles Ridley, Autor und Dozent.

Der Kurs fand in Allschwil/Basel statt.

Kursinhalt:

• Grundlegende innere Haltung (Disposition) bei Post-Biodynamischen-Sitzungen
• Überblick über prä-biodynamische, biodynamische und post-biodynamische Praktiken
• Dr. William G. Sutherland und Rollin Becker, Wegbereiter der CSO/CST
• Funktionen der aufsteigenden und absteigenden spirituellen Ströme
• Die Bedeutung des Neutral
• Formen des Zurückschreckens des Praktizierenden, die das Neutral verhindern
• Verschiedene Formen und Zustände der Stille
• Der Sinusknoten und die Bedeutung für die therapeutische CST-Praxis
• Stille-Praktiken; u.a. Kopf, Herz, Becken einzeln und als Einheit
• Die spirituellen Traditionen, die selbstexistente Leuchtkraft des Herzens und Stillness Touch
• Philosophen und spirituelle Lehrer, die Dr. Still, Sutherland und Becker beeinflusst haben
• Erfahrungsaustausch und Selbstreflexion

Die Kurszeit betrug 32 Kontaktstunden.
Die Kurskosten wurden via Banküberweisung bezahlt.

Basel, 20. September 2026
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Moritz Bartl @kommunikationsliebe.org · 21/09/2026
"The Absolute and the Psychotic Core" www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHXd52wgfKk
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Traum und Verantwortung e.V. @traum-und-verantwortung.bewegung.social.ap.brid.gy · 16/09/2026
SeeleFon: Information und Hilfe durch Telefon- und Email-Beratung "Sind Sie angehörige Person eines psychisch erkrankten Menschen und wissen im Moment nicht, was Sie noch für die Betroffenen tun können? Dann kann das SeeleFon des BApK Ihnen eine Hilfe sein. Denn Personen aus der psychiatrischen […]
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Sarah Peyton: #Autism, Trauma and the Vagus Nerve Tuesday, September 22, 2026 7:00 pm – 8:30 pm PT Online via Zoom "What happens when the world feels fundamentally unsafe, whether it is too loud, too fast, or too much? For all of us, the vagus nerve plays a crucial role in the processing of […]
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Traum und Verantwortung e.V. @traum-und-verantwortung.bewegung.social.ap.brid.gy · 15/09/2026
Bussières, A. et al. (2023). Adverse childhood experience is associated with an increased risk of reporting chronic pain in adulthood: A systematic review and meta-analysis. European Journal of Psychotraumatology, 14(2), 2284025. doi.org/10.1080/20008066.2023.22840…
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Watson, C. B. et al. (2025). A systematic review and meta-analysis of the association between childhood maltreatment and adult depression. Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica, 151(5), 572–599. doi.org/10.1111/acps.13794 #notJustSad
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Traum und Verantwortung e.V. @traum-und-verantwortung.bewegung.social.ap.brid.gy · 14/09/2026
Massage bei Jugendlichen mit #ADHS: Das Konzept der „Verkörperten Verbundenheit“ als komplementärer Pflegeansatz "Eine aktuelle qualitative Studie der Universität Göteborg untersuchte den therapeutischen Nutzen der Massagetherapie bei Jugendlichen mit einer […]
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Moritz Bartl @kommunikationsliebe.org · 11/09/2026
Bodily Oddities: strange things the human body does vester.si/bodily-oddities
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Bodily Oddities: strange things the human body can (sometimes) do
A collection, normal things human bodies can (sometimes) do: reflexes, illusions, sounds, tricks and rare abilities.
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Moritz Bartl @kommunikationsliebe.org · 11/09/2026
"Closer To Truth’s Landscape of Consciousness is a comprehensive resource for theories of consciousness, authenticated by the theorists themselves and kept up-to-date. Also, implications: meaning/purpose, AI consciousness, virtual immortality, life after death. For professional #consciousness […]
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Moritz Bartl @kommunikationsliebe.org · 11/09/2026
A landscape of #consciousness: Toward a taxonomy of explanations and implications Robert Lawrence Kuhn Progress in Biophysics and Molecular Biology, August 2024 doi.org/10.1016/j.pbiomolbio.2023.1…
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Traum und Verantwortung e.V. @traum-und-verantwortung.bewegung.social.ap.brid.gy · 11/09/2026
"Die „Initiative Zukunft Ohne Gewalt – Gewaltfreie Familien, Beziehungen, Gesellschaft“ zeigt am 19. und 20. September in #Berlin eine begehbare Installation. Wer nicht hinfahren kann, betritt sie online. Denken Sie an zehn Männer, die Sie gut kennen. Nachbarn, Kollegen, Schwäger […]
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Einführung in Empathische Support Systeme mit Dominic Barter. #Hamburg, 9.-11. Oktober 2026. "Es sind komplexe und herausfordernde Zeiten, besonders für jene, die sich aktiv für bedeutsamen Wandel einsetzen, sei es in Gesellschaft, am Arbeitsplatz, in Familie, bei politischen Entscheidungen […]
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Traum und Verantwortung e.V. @traum-und-verantwortung.bewegung.social.ap.brid.gy · 10/09/2026
"Does the Body Really Keep Score? One of Trauma's Most Contentious Debates Has Returned" www.psychotherapynetworker.org/arti… ( archive.ph/eh28K )
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Enjoy the audio preview version of this article—perfect for listening on the go. __ 00:00 __ 1X Sorry, no results. Please try another keyword * Over the nearly 13 years I’ve spent writing about therapists and their work, there’s a funny analogy I’ve found myself coming back to again and again: the field behaves a little like a family at Thanksgiving dinner. Its different disciplines are a (mostly) functional cast of characters, supporting and challenging one another, brought together by mutual respect and a shared mission. There’s the patriarch at the end of the table—Psychoanalysis, of course—who leans back and lights up a cigar. A few seats over, Sex Therapy whispers a raunchy secret in the ear of Nature Therapy, who feigns interest and stares out the window at a flock of geese. Ericksonian Hypnosis shares a card trick with Play Therapy, who claps excitedly. Outside, Psychedelic Therapy lies in the grass, blissfully watching the clouds pass overhead. Attachment Therapy keeps a watchful eye over the kids table, where the newcomers have gathered. And Gestalt Therapy is having an animated conversation with an empty chair. You get the idea. Like any family gathering, these characters follow a familiar set of rules: keep politics to a minimum, don’t overshare, and listen well. There are consensuses, too: shared gripes about the DSM, a reverence for the therapeutic relationship, and an understanding that “the body keeps the score.” But what if that last concept—the idea that the body, not just the mind, plays an invaluable role in treatment —isn’t as universally accepted as we think? What if, in this dinnertime scenario, some uninvited guests—four brash researchers—barge into the dining room, decidedly announce that the body does _not_ keep the score, and then mic-drop a thick stack of papers in the center of the table? What if, as the declaration lands with a thud, our cast of characters begins to wonder whether they actually see eye to eye on this body stuff after all? > Within days, it had sparked a firestorm of debate among therapists and non-therapists alike. It turns out this isn’t far from reality. In April, four university researchers—including renowned British neuroscientist Karl Friston—dropped a bombshell report in the journal _Frontiers in Systems Neuroscience,_ provocatively titled, “The body does not keep the score: trauma, predictive coding, and the restoration of metastability.” Within days, it had sparked a firestorm of debate among therapists and non-therapists alike, reviving decades-old tensions over whether trauma is a problem of the mind, the body, or both—and what this means for treatment. The _Frontiers_ paper opens with a bold challenge to one of the most influential ideas in modern trauma treatment: Bessel van der Kolk’s argument that traumatic experiences continue to affect the body and nervous system long after the original danger has passed, a concept he introduced in his 2014 bestseller, _The Body Keeps the Score._ “It’s an enticing metaphor,” the _Frontiers_ authors write, “implying that experience is literally inscribed in flesh, that the body bears the scars of what the mind cannot face.” While emotionally compelling, they continue, van der Kolk’s claim is “biologically inaccurate.” The body proper does not store trauma, they add, but rather, “the brain dynamically reenacts it through maladaptive inference…. Trauma is a disorder of _prediction_ , not _storage_ ; and thus why we believe it is inaccurate to say the body is somehow ‘keeping score.’” But reading further, it soon becomes clear that the authors aren’t actually challenging van der Kolk’s assertions about the body’s importance in trauma treatment. Instead, they’re contesting the literal interpretation of his metaphor—the idea that trauma actually _lives_ in muscles, organs, and tissues as a stored memory, like data on a hard drive. “Our argument is less an outright refutation of van der Kolk than an updated reframing,” they write. “Van der Kolk’s framing obscures the central role of the nervous system in constructing, maintaining, and—crucially—transforming emotional experience. It can inadvertently imply that somatic intervention is the primary or only path to healing, sidelining the computational and inferential processes through which the brain generates the body’s apparent ‘score.’” Van der Kolk hasn’t responded, maybe because he doesn’t need to. Or maybe it’s because what he did or didn’t write 12 years ago isn’t really under fire. Rather, the paper’s authors suggest, the problem lies with the field, which over the years has reduced van der Kolk’s complex ideas down to a simple catchphrase. Regardless, simply calling this out—and _appearing_ to challenge van der Kolk in the process—has created a raging debate on podcasts, nightly newscasts, and, of course, online. Suddenly, it feels like a long-settled battle in the old trauma wars is back on. “Every somatic coach on the internet is having a meltdown,” said health and wellness guru Beau Kuhberg in a May 2026 Instagram video. “But here’s the part nobody’s saying out loud: it doesn’t fucking matter. Your brain _is_ in your body. Drawing a line between brain trauma and body trauma is like arguing whether the music is in the speaker or the air.” “Is trauma in the brain?! Is it in the body?! Who’s right?” asked an Instagram post from Somatic Experiencing practitioner Karden Rabin. “It’s obviously both, and even that is an abstraction, trying to make sense of the age-old dilemma of us humans trying to conceive ourselves a ‘whole being.’” Some took aim at the _Frontiers_ article’s authors. “The title is deliberately provocative, misleading, and misrepresenting of [van der Kolk’s] beliefs,” wrote one Reddit commenter. Others, siding with the _Frontiers_ authors, fired back. “The body is not a hard drive,” retorted another Reddit commenter. “Stop trying to delete a file that was never there.” Some suggested body work had become overhyped. “I worry that we’re entering an era where trauma recovery is being marketed as something you can ‘release’ purely through body-based tools,” wrote trauma-informed child psychologist Robyn Koslowitz on Instagram. “A massage can help regulate your nervous system. A calming tool can lower stress. That’s real. But regulation alone is not the same thing as cognitive reprocessing.” And of course, some took aim at van der Kolk himself. “The body does _not_ keep the score,” said child psychiatrist Michael Scheeringa on a July 2026 episode of Alex Clark’s podcast, _Culture Apothecary._ “I believe van der Kolk started with the conclusion, and then cherry-picked the data to fit it.” Whether you’re Team Mind, Team Body, or somewhere in between, the debate comes down to a deceptively simple question: When we say that the body keeps the score, what do we even mean? ## The Somatic Divide Over the dozen years since _The Body Keeps the Score_ was published, enough praise has been heaped on it to fill books on its own—accolades from therapy legends like Pat Ogden, Jack Kornfield, Dan Siegel, Stephen Porges, Dick Schwartz, Peter Levine, and Jon Kabat-Zinn. Meanwhile, its publication coincided with a huge spike in the popularity of body-based trauma treatments, with methods like Somatic Experiencing and Sensorimotor Psychotherapy establishing international training networks since its introduction. But there’s a disconnect: most clinicians have _not_ jumped on the body bandwagon. According to a 2024 international survey published in _Frontiers in Psychiatry,_ although roughly 78 percent of clinicians say mind-body therapies are “the most promising” category of treatment for psychiatric conditions, only 38 percent agree that they should be integrated into mainstream practice, 43 percent say clinicians should receive formal education in mind-body therapies, 47 percent said they’d feel comfortable talking with clients about mind-body therapies, and 37 percent said they’d recommend them to clients. In sum, the enthusiasm is real, but it hasn’t translated into actual practice. The field, it would seem, is split. And it has Ruth Lanius worried. “I fear we’re back at Descartes—seeing the brain and body as distinct entities,” says Lanius, a prominent clinician-scientist, researcher, and author who’s been studying trauma for over 30 years. “When I read the _Frontiers_ article, which implies that they’re separate, I thought, _Wait a minute, the brain, mind, and body are one_. All the sensory information we experience in our bodies gets transported through the spinal cord into the brain, which makes sense of it and regulates the body.” Is the mind-body connection lost on most therapists, as the _Frontiers_ authors suggest? “My sense is the authors are getting caught up in semantics,” Lanius says. “Saying ‘the body keeps the score’ doesn’t mean we’re just treating the tissues. The tissues _could_ be affected—we know that stress is associated with inflammatory processes. But that’s just one piece.” > The field remains deeply divided—and those divisions go well beyond terminology. So if the issue with the _Frontiers_ article is just a matter of semantics, then why are so many therapists so worked up? Lanius says it’s because, even in this seemingly Golden Age of trauma treatment, the field remains deeply divided—and those divisions go well beyond terminology. “There are the top-down people, and there are the bottom-up people. We need to bring them together, because our clients need both. Thoughts are critical, but when you’re severely traumatized, the language and awareness parts of your brain aren’t fully online. Sometimes you need a bottom-up treatment to get the full effect of a top-down treatment.” Embracing both isn’t just nice in theory, Lanius adds—it can drastically shift the outcome of therapy. After all, only about half of clients respond to talk therapy alone. If that wasn’t enough to sway skeptics of the idea that the body keeps the score, there’s another reason Lanius says it’s worth taking seriously: It perfectly describes what many trauma survivors actually feel. “It was actually Bessel’s patients who came up with the concept of the body keeping the score,” she says. Lanius has heard similar descriptions from her own clients—like the one who’d been stabbed and continued to feel blood dripping down his neck long after the wound had healed, or the assault victims who, when triggered, said they felt like they were being forcibly held down all over again. “Traumatic memories can be experienced as sensations in the body,” Lanius explains. “Hence clients feel that the body keeps the score. After treatment, that changes. It’s like the body lets go of the memories.” None of this may be visible under a microscope, but Lanius says the experience of trauma living in and leaving the body feels very real to clients—“and we need to take that subjective experience seriously.” ## Setting the Record Straight Psychologist Arielle Schwartz still remembers when the words _somatic psychotherapy_ were met with raised eyebrows, even from fellow therapists. “Thirty years ago, they’d look at me a little cross-eyed and say, ‘semantic therapy?’” She says the uptake since then has been dramatic—and when _The Body Keeps the Score_ debuted, it confirmed what she’d long known as an EMDR specialist and yoga practitioner: tuning into the felt experience could provide crucial feedback about the process of healing from trauma. The _Frontiers_ article, she says, felt like a step backward. “Unfortunately, I think it gets mired in the old Cartesian error that the mind and brain aren’t part of the body. When you look at the interaction of the nervous system and every other system of the body, you see how deeply they’re intertwined. That you can’t possibly separate the mind or brain or nervous system from the fascia, the cardiovascular system, the endocrine system, or your digestive system. Do the issues live in our tissues? Absolutely. And does the brain contribute to the problem with predictive processing? Absolutely. So it’s both/and, not either/or.” As reasonable as this may seem, Schwartz admits that focusing on the body at the expense of the psyche happens frequently in our field, and it can be problematic. “If we’re only focusing on the felt sense and not realizing that we need to unpack where the mind gets caught in feedback loops, or if we don’t know how to interrupt the mental processes that become our self-confirming biases, then that also contributes to the problem,” she says. For Schwartz, the solution is an integrative mind-body approach. In her own work with trauma survivors, she often begins with a memory reappraisal and reconsolidation process. When the client notices a sensation, she asks them to notice the automatic interpretations their mind is making about it. _It’s bad. I can’t handle it. It’s never going to go away. There’s something wrong with me_. Then, she introduces a somatic intervention that allows the client to stay with the sensation and notice that none of their worst-case-scenario beliefs came true._I could handle it. It ended. I’m okay._ With repetition, they eventually “update” how the memory and sensation are held in the brain. “Over time, how we relate to our body begins to change,” Schwartz explains. “We get to befriend it, and think _Oh, I’m not so scared of that feeling anymore. I’ve got this._ ” For Schwartz, the integrative mind-body approach makes intuitive sense—“and that’s what Bessel’s been saying all along,” she adds. “That’s where I think it got misconstrued. He never meant to say the body only.” ## Shiny Objects Just when it seemed the trauma field had settled the brain versus body debate, psychotherapy researcher Scott Miller offers a dissenting take: Maybe these tidy concepts of brain and body are more appealing than they are accurate. “Research is the great leveler,” he says. “And frankly, I don’t see the scientific support for much of what van der Kolk claims. I see the interest, and his book title is definitely memorable. But the evidence is limited.” Miller doesn’t side with the _Frontiers_ authors either. “We’re talking about two takes that are highly questionable,” he says. “It’s like, which narrative do you want? I do think that Bessel’s work is still primarily understood as trauma being stored in the tissue. If you listen to his early talks, it sure sounds like that.” Miller clarifies that he isn’t questioning the importance of the body in trauma treatment. “There’s no reason _not_ to focus on the body,” he says. “But mediums and psychics and tarot card readers have outcomes that are just as good.” So why has the idea that the body keeps the score had such staying power? “Our field is prone to generating new ideas,” he says, “and my theory is that they tend to reflect the cultural interests of the time. This is true of psychodynamic therapy, CBT, EMDR, and EFT. They _feel_ relevant, and are attractive as such. And the claim is always ‘If you don’t know this or do this you’re going to be less effective.’ That’s not supported by the science. To paraphrase an old expression, ‘Culture eats psychotherapy for lunch.’” > And over time, these ideas are prone to totalism and oversimplification. The dilemma, Miller adds, is that most of these interventions work. But over the last 50 years, he says there’s been virtually no improvement in clinical outcomes, regardless of the approach. And over time, these ideas—like the body keeping the score—are prone to totalism and oversimplification. “Concepts meant for the therapy room have escaped, aided and abetted by algorithms on social media,” he says. “We’re no longer in control of them, and that’s alarming. You don’t see the same kind of drift in other sciences, like physics or mathematics.” So what’s the solution? “To me, this isn’t about the _Frontiers_ article or the question of whether the body keeps the score,” Miller says. “It’s about something bigger: We need to take a hard look at whether our interventions are actually helping our clients, to monitor and measure them over time. Without evidence, these ideas are just stories,” he says. “They’re neither good nor bad. But all stories have the potential to help and heal.” ## Doing Our Part Therapists like Morgan Starr-Riestis, a holistic nervous system regulation expert whose practice pulls heavily from the work of somatic therapy pioneers, have been tracking the mind-body debate closely. But regardless of where the field lands, she says her clinical foundation feels sturdy. _The Body Keeps the Score_ was part of her clinical upbringing—and she believes it’s still incredibly relevant—but she also draws inspiration from other approaches, like Peter Levine’s Somatic Experiencing and Dan Siegel’s Interpersonal Neurobiology. Taking these multiple perspectives into account, she says the importance of the body in trauma treatment is undeniable. “Stress and trauma cause an _unfathomable_ amount of measurable change. Literally every organ system—our nervous system, immune system, cardiovascular system, respiratory system, musculoskeletal system, and reproductive system—is impacted. Trauma increases your risk of heart disease and stroke. It increases your risk of cancer. So I don’t think van der Kolk’s claim of the body keeping the score is grossly inaccurate.” As someone who also boasts a considerable online presence, with over 750,000 Instagram followers, Starr-Riestis says there’s something else about the _Frontiers_ article that gives her pause: how it was marketed. “I’m in the belly of the online beast,” she says. “So my first thought was, _This is just for clicks._ It makes sense that it blew up. Imagine if it had been titled differently. I think it was made to be sensationalized.” Starr-Riestis acknowledges that complex ideas often get watered down on social media. But even in limited formats like Instagram posts, where brevity is not only encouraged but rewarded, she says clinicians have the room—and the responsibility—to offer context. On her Instagram page, Starr-Riestis shares the proactive nervous system regulation routine she offers clients, in which she helps them customize their mornings and evenings using a palette of nervous system regulation tools, like humming while brushing your teeth or doing bilateral stimulation while brewing your morning coffee. They work, she says, but there’s also more to the story. “It’s unethical to think I can solve people’s problems with a one-minute post,” she explains. “So at the end of almost every video, I’ll try to direct people to my program where my team and I can offer the nuance and customization needed to get results. I try to be transparent by saying there’s more to the equation than what we can fit into one-directional social media posts.” The mind-body debate has hardly been settled. But maybe that’s not an entirely bad thing. Psychotherapy works, at least in part, because of the friction between competing ideas. Because no single theory gets to operate without being questioned, tested, and held accountable when it goes off the rails. Sure, it’s frustrating, but it’s also protective. It keeps us from mistaking an enticing explanation for a complete one. Maybe the goal isn’t to decide which guest at the Thanksgiving dinner table has been right all along. Maybe it’s to keep the conversation going, to make sure no single voice drowns out the others. To bring our combined strength to the table. Heated debates will continue to occur, but like most families, we usually find our way back to each other. If not for us, then for those we serve. “We need to move into conversation and connection,” says Lanius. “To resist the polarizing pull of choosing one viewpoint over another. We live in polarized times, but when we move toward reconnection, it ripples outward—from individuals, to groups, to the world.” ### Chris Lyford Chris Lyford is the Senior Editor at _Psychotherapy Networker_. Previously, he was assistant director and editor of the _The Atlantic Post_ , where he wrote and edited news pieces on the Middle East and Africa. He also formerly worked at _The Washington Post_ , where he wrote local feature pieces for the Metro, Sports, and Style sections. Contact: clyford@psychnetworker.org. #### Share #### Send us your thoughts #### Online Courses View All Courses #### Recent Issues View All Issues ## Related Articles ### Your Inner Therapist Garry Cooper ### Tapping into Trauma David Feinstein ### Brave New Couples Ryan Howes & Susan Johnson ### Becoming a Supershrink: Three Steps to Professional Excellence Scott Miller & Barry L. Duncan & Mark Hubble ### Overpromised, Underresearched Jay Efran & Mitchell Greene
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