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Vivian Rosanthwyn @rosanthwyn.online · 29/09/2025

I've been trying out JangaFX's IlluGen to make VFX for Paula. Honestly even though the tool still seems to be pretty early, holy shit, it is so fun to make assets with it.

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orels1 @orels1.bsky.social · 29/09/2025

Its been a month since i started using @gingerbill.org 's Odin language, so I feel compelled to finally write something about that For context: I'm working on a little steamvr overlay tool in my free time. The goal is to learn more about steamvr and to write something lower level than i usually do

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 26/09/2025

The project is proprietary and won't be open sourced.

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 17/09/2025

No. It's purely for teaching about compiler development and design, that's it. In fact, I will be using it to show you how can you lower directly to machine code with it.

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 28/07/2025

We at JangaFX have just released our new superweapon for VFX artists in games: 𝙄𝙡𝙡𝙪𝙂𝙚𝙣 jangafx.com/software/ill...

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 06/04/2025

I was not talking about the compiler but the toolchain.

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 06/04/2025

If you want the extensions, you are saying you don't care about portability. Which is fine, but one of the reasons I made Odin is because GNU C is not available everywhere.

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 28/03/2025

I understood but even then that argument doesn't really make sense as I said in the article. It's kind of agnostic for the language.

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 28/03/2025

That's because of the Windows file system (NTFS) being a lot slower than the defaults on Mac and Linux. So what works well on Windows doesn't work well on *nix, and vice versa.

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 28/03/2025

Well there is now `radlink.exe` which comes with the rad debugger, and for many projects, it is faster than `link.exe`. For my stuff, I've not found it significantly faster, but I know others have.

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 28/03/2025

I do cover that point already. bsky.app/profile/ging...

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 28/03/2025

It is possible to target the MSVC toolchain from Linux (even if it is not straightforward), and then even "test" it with "Proton" but that's not the same as testing it on an actual Windows machine. At least develop for a platform you have, at least have a VM/emulator for it.

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 28/03/2025

Regarding the cross-linking from Linux aspect, this is one thing that kind of annoys me. I understand why many people want to do cross-linking, but if you don't have a Windows machine to test on, that's the equivalent of not even testing your code.

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 28/03/2025

P.S. I'd also argue that some people want to use MinGW for "ideological" reasons, either out of hate/spite for Microsoft of some kind (not wanting to use Windows and wanting to cross-linking from Linux), or because MinGW is open source and MSVC isn't.

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 28/03/2025

There are some tools out there (see github.com/Data-Oriente...) that allow you to download a standalone MSVC compiler/linker/etc without having install Visual Studio; contains only the bare minimum components.

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GitHub - Data-Oriented-House/PortableBuildTools: Portable VS Build Tools installer

Portable VS Build Tools installer. Contribute to Data-Oriented-House/PortableBuildTools development by creating an account on GitHub.

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 28/03/2025

Most people appear to want MinGW just to minimize the download requirement, but in short, you are going to need to download the Windows SDK (and other libraries) any way. This is the problem of developing on Windows—you effectively need to use Microsoft’s "stuff".

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 28/03/2025

MinGW is also kind of a mess in itself. So outside of libc(++), you will suffer. For C, some libraries that have a C interface may rely on specific C++ symbols directly; assuming the existence due to toolchain ABI assumptions. This does happen in practice, even if it is rare.

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 28/03/2025

For C, they are "meant to be" ABI compatible in theory, but in practice they are not for non-obvious reasons. For C++, their ABIs are incompatible. Most 3rd-party libraries that are precompiled will also assume the MSVC toolchain, and not MinGW.

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 28/03/2025

There is an annoyance some people using Odin have where they don't want to use the MSVC toolchain on Windows but rather use MinGW. These being the two main toolchains for C/C++ development on Windows. There is a reason Odin uses MSVC and NOT the MinGW toolchain...

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 16/01/2025

If you find that you were more productive with it after that month, you have at least tested yourself!

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 06/01/2025

I think HL2's pacing is fine, and it was spectacular when it came out but you get dulled to it quickly. As for Titanfall 2, do I need to play the first game or does it not matter?

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 06/01/2025

That's an extremely well written book too! I highly recommend it to anyone wanting to learn Odin.

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 06/01/2025

This is clearly just AI generated garbage. Please don't read any of it. The code examples are borderline-Go and it's all bad.

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 06/01/2025

The thing is, HL2 was so influential that everyone took what it learnt and incorporated all of that. So a game like Titanfall 2 (which I have never played) might be better because it's 12 years younger than HL2.

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Karl Zylinski @zylinski.se · 10/12/2024

Just updated my Odin book. Added something about the address sanitizer, clarified some things and fixed several typos. SUPER BIG THANKS to everyone who has bought it and said such nice things about it!! 💖 Change list is here: zylinski.itch.io/odinbook/dev...

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Version 1.2: New section on address sanitizer and lots of small fixes!

BIG BIG THANKS to everyone who bought my book, read it and said such nice things about it. I never dreamed it would be this popular. I’m stunned! Thank you! I have just uploaded a new updated versio.....

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Karl Zylinski @zylinski.se · 06/12/2024

My Odin book comes in two flavors: HTML - Great for reading on the computer. It's a single HTML file with everything baked in. Also works on phone / tablet. EPUB - Simpler layout, for your e-reader, phone or tablet.

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 06/12/2024

So today has been an amazing day for Odin. First the Odin Book, new Odin release, and now Odin is on Compiler Explorer (Godbolt)! SUCH A GOOD DAY!!!

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Morten Vassvik @vassvik.bsky.social · 06/12/2024

Fun little challenge posed by iq over at TheOtherSite: x.com/iquilezles/s...

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 06/12/2024

We'll be updating the website very soon with all of that!

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 06/12/2024

It's amazing and surreal to see this. The very first BOOK on Odin is available NOW!!! @zylinski.se has done an excellent job on the book and I'd highly recommend it to anyone who wants to learn and understand the Odin programming language. odinbook.com

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Understanding the Odin Programming Language

Learn the Odin Programming Language and demystify low-level programming

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Karl Zylinski @zylinski.se · 06/12/2024

My digital book "Understanding the Odin Programming Language" is OUT NOW! ✨ If you want to learn Odin and demystify low-level programming, then this book is for you! Read more or buy at: odinbook.com

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Understanding the Odin Programming Language

Learn the Odin Programming Language and demystify low-level programming

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 04/12/2024

Huh? Odin's GitHub has 7049 stars at the time of writing. How did the bot get the other number?

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Eskil Steenberg Hald @quelsolaar.bsky.social · 01/12/2024

A lot of people ask me how Implement, linked lists/vectors/strings/hash tables, and other common data structures, and I think most people assume i have really good reusable implementations of these after 20+ years. I don't. I always reimplement it every time.

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G-J van Rooyen @gvrooyen.com · 01/12/2024

But honestly, mostly because I find @gingerbill.org (Odin creator) and Jonathan Blow's views on software and programming refreshing and thought-provoking, and Odin is clearly an expression of those views 😁 In the "modern replacements for C" space, Rust, Zig, and Odin map out 3 contrasting positions

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 30/11/2024

I changed it to 6 x 1.5, therefore it is just add (half of 6) to 6, which is 9.

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gingerBill @gingerbill.org · 30/11/2024

Odin has cross-compilation but NOT cross-linking. So you'll have to do something like `-build-mode:obj` and then do your own linking to get the cross-linking working.

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