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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 05/06/2026

Being centrist about Floraverse is like being centrist about the Epstein files.

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Rina @awryval.art · 05/06/2026

Sick and fucking tired of people being centrist about it because they think weird art trumps victim experiences. even greater news, there are multitudes of furries out there that make vent art about the queer experience who do not abuse REAL children and REAL animals in the process. Go soul search.

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Rina @awryval.art · 05/06/2026

floraverse do not fucking interact (this includes orbiters too)

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 27/03/2026

....I need to specify the fact I am talking about the **illustrated** porn because Marl (the ex-husband) has attempted to coerce at least one child into being filmed having sex with a dog.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 27/03/2026

The only things we see as even being worth mentioning with the illustrated porn is how it was carelessly shared with kids in the first roleplay group, and that one time they made porn to depict how a victim who was groomed in the community was actually raped as a child against that victims wishes.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 27/03/2026

I understand that the nature of these things makes you wary that we are some puritans getting angry about drawings. I promise you, this isn't the case.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 27/03/2026

When a child came forward about Marl sexually abusing them and sending them photos of dog genitalia, Glip made the decision to use their platform to paint the child a liar and slander them. This is despite the fact Marl had forced Glip to rape multiple dogs years earlier when they first wed.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 27/03/2026

While Marl (ex-husband) was the key figure in the sexual abuse, he wasn't the only one. Glip has allowed their cat to um. Groom their genitalia. ghostarchive.org/archive/PnLTV floraverseisacult.com/logs/glipknew Additionally, when Marl was sexually abusing the pet dog Apollo, Glip was aware of it

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 27/03/2026

...But she's also since argued that making porn that used audio clips of an actual 16 year old moaning shouldn't be bannable on FA (and I guess by extension, legal?) archive.is/smr7e

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 27/03/2026

Eevee was not talking about illustrations when she said she wasn't sure if CP should be illegal. Here is her thread from the time: x.com/eevee/status... She has since recanted this.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 27/03/2026

Its frustrating to me how Sam is somehow the singular talking point now that's ever brought up when Floraverse is talked about. They aren't even mentioned on our website. I wish people would instead talk about what the victims have gone through, and what the more key perpetrators have done by name.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 27/03/2026

(I am not associated with flora) I would describe Sam to be an "enabler" of the community with his role as a moderator. "bad stuff"? yes, enabling the abuse of others in the community isn't a good thing but it also isn't pedophilia or zoophilia. It's small potatoes to the big picture of Flora.

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halloween III: season of the wolp @brettnyanderson.northsky.social · 26/03/2026

So cool this website doesn't have affective bare minimum moderation that any loser with a larger following can say a bunch of shit they cannot prove cause it's from their friend's smear campaign of 'just trust me bro' while victims are expected to have the burden of proof but also that's ignored

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 26/03/2026

That sure is neat double speak and a cute roundabout way for them to directly admit in engaging in a harassment campaign targeted at a trans man.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 25/03/2026

But taking accusations backed by evidence seriously is a chore. Looking at the evidence and determining its merit requires thought. It's much easier to just take the words of whoever has the most **CLOUT** at face value.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 25/03/2026

This online concept that certain types of people can never do any wrong is dangerous. It's the mindset that allows scammers like Emily Gwen and James Sommerton to thrive for so long. Anyone can be a monster. Accusations backed by evidence should never be disregarded because the accused is queer.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 25/03/2026

You know, considering how fucking similar the behavior is between these people and how people talk in the fucking Epstein files...I'm pretty certain that even if they did recognize how close they are to fascism, they just wouldn't care.

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lost my peashooter in the searing @curus.gay · 25/03/2026

I'm so frustrated... As someone who was also a victim of Floraverse I had the rare opportunity to try and talk song sense into Nerdskull, and to see that they're still not getting the point. Still throwing you under the bus It is *so damn hard* to get people to understand the cost of the cult

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lost my peashooter in the searing @curus.gay · 25/03/2026

I know a friend who follows NS, and it took genuine, hard words and having to discuss my trauma with them to get them to understand the cost. I want to fight for you. I want to fight for a future where you're not defined by your trauma. I want a future where this is taken seriously

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halloween III: season of the wolp @brettnyanderson.northsky.social · 25/03/2026

It's tiring and it's rape culture. It exists everywhere and it's something that has so many people cannot understand. Sam has always had friends who coordinate 'attacks' and swarm like hornets. They can deny it but I've been through hell and wasn't allowed to speak for myself or others without them

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 25/03/2026

I just call that the consequences to ones own actions, frankly. I find myself extremely frustrated by the fact victims of abuse need to perform 57 backflips, and learn at least 2 extra languages to be taken seriously, and the abusers can just say "no they suck" and their word is taken as gospel.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 25/03/2026

...When the the entire point of the quote is that victims of abuse are still people who do have choices they can make, and that an abuse victim recognizing that they do have some form of power over themselves is the first step to escaping the cycle of abuse.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 25/03/2026

It's so....difficult! There's never going to be a perfect solution. Even when lago's video first came out, a blatantly bad faith interpretation of our site started to spread by ev that we "blamed victims for their abuse" for quoting the book "The Gift of Fear"....

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 25/03/2026

...or in the case of that documentary series made by the webcomic guy, frustratingly very close to being good...if only he didn't parrot unsubstantiated allegations flora has made about certain victims who spoke out as if they are fact.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 25/03/2026

A lot of the other videos on the topic are either outdated, made by those affiliated by kf, deleted due to harassment from flora (InsomniacIdiotXO)...

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 25/03/2026

It's such a difficult topic to cover in a video, and lago's video is one of the better ones. I think this video by Matoux is the best. It's unfortunately in french but it has English subtitles. It's accurately detailed and fully respects victims. www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xYP...

youtube.com

FLORAVERSE, la SECTE prédatrice de Discord

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halloween III: season of the wolp @brettnyanderson.northsky.social · 25/03/2026

lago's video isn't immune to criticism, but the criticism would be like 'is he making money off this video?' or issues with how he covered muffet's creator. not 'victims are lying because we equate the victims to people who watch these things happen and think it's entertaining' rape culture

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Rina @awryval.art · 25/03/2026

All we’re left with are zines like this and peoples ages old Twitter/Tumblr/whatever threads. people want easy answers and easy solutions, and don’t care to educate themselves on the subject. And that’s fine, but don’t speak like you’re an authority on it if you don’t listen to its victims.

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Rina @awryval.art · 25/03/2026

i said this at the time I wrote this, and I’ll say it again: there is no way to feasibly document all the abuse that Floraverse has caused. Lots of people who were once involved refused to talk about it at all. Either they’re embarrassed or they know they’d be putting a mark on themselves.

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Rina @awryval.art · 25/03/2026

between having my fursona be stolen by my groomer and people making fun of my zine, I became exhausted. I know it’s not the best written thing ever: I know I didn’t address every single part of that place that sucked. It’s a zine- it’s messy feelings.

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halloween III: season of the wolp @brettnyanderson.northsky.social · 25/03/2026

I recommend this to who's actually confused about what Floraverse is and what the hell Sam and their helicopter parent ass friends were trying to lie to people about that I 'refused to let folks change' when I explicitly was talking about how victims aren't obligated to forgive sexual predators:

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 25/03/2026

I'm sorry, for my own health I am not on social media often. Did something happen? /gen

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halloween III: season of the wolp @brettnyanderson.northsky.social · 06/03/2026

for what they are by people they wanted to convince otherwise. it no longer is purely lucrative for them. and you yourself are much more sincere and much braver than any of them.

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halloween III: season of the wolp @brettnyanderson.northsky.social · 06/03/2026

superficial grasp on all of those concepts and just use it as a weapon to get what they want. very self-absorbed people and from my experiences and from what people told me over the years (it's basically a missing stair situation), it only confirmed it. and they do not like that they've been seen

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halloween III: season of the wolp @brettnyanderson.northsky.social · 06/03/2026

seeing you be so open about all of this and also your identity helped me realize that a lot of people arguing in favor of glip or the yellow dragon don't actually give a shit about queerness, kink, expression, censorship, fascism. they just care about them or their friends and have a very

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Moonington @bringoutthedead.bsky.social · 11/02/2026

even if you push past the alleged zoophilia/pedophilia they're just... not great people to be around, emotionally manipulative and abusive. There is maybe one person from that group that ever took some sort of accountability for the way I was treated but the rest still refuse to see any wrongdoing

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 04/12/2025

Those are three very different things that everyone as individuals weighs individually differently. But for the people you are seeing talk about Sam, the combination the personal needle of what is okay to point at Sam being more of a perpetrator then a victim.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 04/12/2025

You are seeing what you are seeing with Sam because everyone has their own personal 'gauge' of what is okay. The combination of frequently commissioning Glip, the position of leadership, and Sam using her high-authority position in furry spaces to lie about the safety of the Flora community...

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 04/12/2025

Is she the **main driver** of that abuse? No, of course not. But it would also be completely wrong to say the abuse would continue as is if Sam and people like her in the same position stepped away. And it's a **choice** to not step away.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 04/12/2025

I use the phrase "position of leadership" because practically speaking, Sam has moderator privileges. That comes with influence and actual power of authority in the group *and abuse* dynamics itself. On a fundamental level, Sam plays a non-insignificant role in facilitating the abuse.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 04/12/2025

There are a lot of gray areas when it comes to this sort of thing. It's not just a black and white designation of 'victim' and 'perpetrator' for a majority of members. A person can be a victim of a cult in a lot of ways, but also the *perpetrator* (or in Sam's case, *enabler*) of abuse to another.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 04/12/2025

If Glip did not have people like Sam to buy commissions, then it would not matter if Glip (they/them) wanted to continue commission work as selling commissions that no one is buying, does not actually bring in money. Sam is a *frequent* commissioner of Glip.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 03/12/2025

It doesn't matter if Sam "genuinely believes" in scenes and doesn't *think* she's doing harm in the same way it doesn't matter if a Harry potter fan thinks they aren't causing harm by buying the books and merchandise. Because objectively speaking, that money is going to things that **cause harm.**

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 03/12/2025

It's exactly the same as how JKR is able to fund the manifestation of her transphobia into legislation because people buy harry potter - but on a significantly smaller scale.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 03/12/2025

When I say Sam helps fund the abuse I mean the group operational logistics with time specifically are just realistically not there without sources of income like Sam.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 03/12/2025

To be blunt: Glip wouldn't be able to realistically manage, let alone demand people partaking in 25+ hour long role plays if Glip themselves had to get any job that required their attention on anything but the group for any regularly-occurring meaningful periods of time.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 03/12/2025

Floraverse, the community is able to operate as it does because Floraverse, the community is able to provide enough general commissions and funds to Glip, the leader, to be able to live day to day with very few other known means of income...and spend all their time with the community.

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(unofficial) Floraverse @floraverse.bsky.social · 03/12/2025

Understand what when I say Sam is "in a position of leadership in the cult" I do not mean "sam is a cult leader". I am being very deliberate with my words and I did not say "cult leader". There typically is only a singular cult leader in cults, and this is true with Floraverse - it's Glip.

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