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Mike Goves

@bruceleeedu.bsky.social
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Cybernetics, homeostasis, affect. These are interesting.

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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 28/06/2025
PE approach is valid (script/frame/schema theories), but the error is affective not semantic. Cognitive architecture is grounded in what we react to (big homeostatic advantage). Our affect states are highly sophisticated, serving as a prediction (including hypothetical / imagined state) machine.
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 18/09/2024
Or as Stafford Beer would call it, “the science of holism”. I don’t think we do interdisciplinary thinking very well in education, so it’s amazing to see this @olicav.bsky.social
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 27/02/2024
Great idea! Really great. Best idea I’ve ever seen. This is PRECISELY how attention should be measured. Perfect for neurodiverse & students with SEN too. Luckily facial expressions are all we need to determine attention, arousal and understanding. What’s the point of the default mode network anyway.
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 03/02/2024
Long live Requisite Variety (literally).
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 30/01/2024
Just need to offload to restore some inner calm - at a national conference about the ‘future of education/CPD/expertise development’… Classroom simulations Digital approximations Remote (mixed reality) AI coaching Adding ‘when’ (on what, how) in cog sci research, so > computational Feeling sad 😔
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 28/01/2024
100%. Is there anything from Lakoff & Johnson to help? I haven’t found a decent way of expressing thinking & feeling being subsumed. Learning discourse website is great at placing brains as computers but I couldn’t see as useful metaphors for holism/integrated/systems.
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 28/01/2024
Agree with all the above. I’m also a biologist / biochemist / neuroscience researcher. So not too sympathetic. But computational thinking does feature in teachers of those subjects. I’m not convinced many teachers/leaders spend much time thinking about epistemology.
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 27/01/2024
Tbh I watch them jabber on from afar despondently as I read advice on where to look in a classroom and how to say a response out loud in case a student whispers a reply - because apparently that’s ’applying theory to practice’.
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 27/01/2024
Yes, agreed. He + Boxer et al all misunderstand learning owing to an obsession with levels of processing / brains as computers. Problem 1: that’s a product of the system as is; problem 2: for most, it does produce results (arguably unethically & given curriculum / assessment constraints).
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 27/01/2024
This is a huge issue. I’m constantly suggesting that subject knowledge & understanding needs more attention - falls on deaf ears all too much.
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 27/01/2024
Quite - relating to systems, it’s far easier to reduce variation by limiting definitions of ‘right’. Unintended consequence is it also limits teacher subject knowledge and understanding (imo).
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 27/01/2024
Which can lead to ‘we’ve done this!’ (student) or ‘forget what you were taught before!’ (teacher) scenarios. Shocker.
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 27/01/2024
👍 precisely. And creating clarity can be limiting. I hate when students are conditioned to be ‘right’ just because the assessment says so. Asking ‘How do plants make food?’ (or something) across Y6-13 yields wildly different answers, naturally, depending on depth of understanding.
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 27/01/2024
There’s more TLAC and Walkthrus in ITT & ECT than ever…
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 27/01/2024
TLAC #12 ‘hold out for answers that are all the way right’. Which really means curriculum right. I prefer, ‘How right do you want to be?’ A ‘closed q’ of ‘Does far-red convert Pfr to Pr?’ or some such, could have a short answer or extended one (meaning it might as well have been an open q).
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 27/01/2024
😜 Hence my advice to trainees that ‘right is right’ and use of ‘open vs closed qs’ approaches offer a myopic view of teaching.
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 27/01/2024
Might have been this: www.nature.com/articles/s41...
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 27/01/2024
It’s a great model - no problem showing bottom flow constant. Been a while, but to do so would combine breakdown over time, absorption of far red light and thermal reversion. Can’t quite recall the rate differences here between routes but have a distant memory about dimers.
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 26/01/2024
Nice. Depends on accuracy right? Far red light possibly more accurate than darkness (but harder to understand). Temperature also a factor (thermal reversion). Also exist as dimers I think which complicates further.
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 26/01/2024
Agreed. It’s a ritual like any other and hard to shake off. Thanks for sharing, I’ll have a read.
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 15/12/2023
Somatic Marker Hypothesis mostly. Some here. But…this short piece highlights how he may not fully commit to the role of emotions in cognition as much as he could/should?: www.frontiersin.org/articles/10....
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 15/12/2023
This is true. I’ll def read it then. More Maturana too. Shame I hadn’t clocked all this when I had zero responsibilities 😂.
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 15/12/2023
Only Runaway. Some real wisdom in there. Also realise I must be an absurdist.
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 15/12/2023
He has a way with words - speaks of how the group met (inc Pask, Mead), talking ‘control’, kubernetes/steersman. Started w/Wiener then McCulloch (who I heard of first via my uni tutor; designing the early neural net). Beer really got the interdisciplinary nature of homeostatic feedback.
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 15/12/2023
Yes. If the Chilean govt is a system I’m fairly confident it can apply to a group of schools 😉.
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 15/12/2023
Awesome! I saw this m.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ6o... a while back and didn’t come back to it until recently. It’s something I want to introduce to our trust, and all UK trusts via CST. Not there yet…
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 15/12/2023
Mary Helen and CANDLE are excellent. Building on Damasio’s research so well. Every opportunity I get to cite her work I take eg Building Meaning Builds Teens’ Brains (usually met with a firm 😳). If you’re able to share it I’d love to read it.
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Mike Goves @bruceleeedu.bsky.social · 06/12/2023
Apparently not the standard educogsci light read. But I’m excited. #SystemsTeaching #CyberneticLeadership
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